Hopkins looked GREAT in his fight vs Winky!

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  1. BITCH ASS

    BITCH ASS "Too Fast" Full Member

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    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Please, Wright wasn't nearly as effective at 160 as he was 154 and he looked terrible at 170. Wright can't deal with a mover historically anyway, prime for prime Hopkins would have nearly shutout Wright because of this reason.

    Yet, Winky still made him work hard for it, with his flat footed, guard defensive style.

    Now Hopkins, almost a year later is going up against a fighter who is a level up in ability for one, hits much harder, has more workrate, is multi-dimensional and extremely aggressive as times, setting a pace most boxers can't operate at.

    Hopkins is going to get worn out and stopped, he won't win a single round.
     
  3. BITCH ASS

    BITCH ASS "Too Fast" Full Member

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    This I definitely disagree with. I think Hopkins is too smart and still has enough pep in his step to get stopped.

    While I think Calzaghe will win, Hopkins will cut Calzaghe's workrate down considerably, and engage Calzaghe on the inside as often as possible where I feel Hopkins will have the advantage.

    The key for Calzaghe winning this fight will be to keep Hopkins at range and to hit him with pot shots and occasional flurries.

    Calzaghe needs to make this like an amateur boxing match.
     
  4. Ramshall1

    Ramshall1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hops made it a boring fight, I had it a draw.
     
  5. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :wall
     
  6. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    This may be the case, I won't debate it. I just think he's ripe to lose all stamina and get pinned on the ropes or retire in the corner and nobody will care because he's old.

    With what?

    His timing has degraded and he lacks the power anyway to stop a full onslaught. Kessler stopped Calzaghe in his tracks several times, but I promise you that he hits much harder than Hopkins.

    Hopkins has also always been vulnerable to good jabs and Calzaghe brings that within his workrate.

    Last, Calzaghe's absurdly quick feet and in and out movement are already a stylistic issue for Hopkins at any point in his career, much less now.

    This is a wipe out in the making.

    What he's going to do is jab and swarm, just like Hopkins, Calzaghe is very rough in the clinch and explodes out of the clinch on top of it.

    Calzaghe has never been a tactical pot shotter, he always brings the workrate and combination's.

    No, he needs to thrash this old man, Hopkins has just enough left to show if he'd be able to beat a prime Calzaghe in his prime, to do that Hopkins would just need to win a few rounds clean.

    Calzaghe completely dominating the fight would show that he'd take a prime/prime match up in a closer fight.
     
  7. PrideOfWales

    PrideOfWales Winston Zedmore Full Member

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    I also think you underestimate Calzaghe's ability to fight on the inside. He'll also give **** back to Hopkins when he starts using his head and elbows... except a little bit quicker.
     
  8. BITCH ASS

    BITCH ASS "Too Fast" Full Member

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    Right, but Hopkins is arguably stronger, and while both fighters are intelligent in the clinch, I still think that Hopkins will have the advantage because of his strength and power.
     
  9. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Hopkins is not a powerful hitter, never has been. Calzaghe is just as good an in fighter, but quicker and the strength may be near the same.

    Calzaghe is very strong, never been outmuscled by anybody and he's fought some strong guys. Stronger than former Welter's you know.:yep
     
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    PrideOfWales Winston Zedmore Full Member

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  12. BITCH ASS

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    I agree that Kessler is more powerful than Hopkins, but Kessler kept the fight on the outside where he could employ his power.

    Hopkins fight against Calzaghe will be on the inside in the clinch where whether or not he has power on the same level as Kessler's, which he doesn't, he'll be able to land it.
     
  13. albeziel

    albeziel Multi Viral C13 Full Member

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    This will be a good fight and a very hard one to predict, I'll go with JC by close UD but who knows.
     
  14. Ring Master

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    Calzaghe by wide UD. too much volume for Hopkins.