Hopkins losing battle for credibility

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by onourway, Apr 18, 2008.


  1. onceagain

    onceagain Active Member Full Member

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    Oh do you? :lol:

    http://www.economist.com/displaystory.cfm?story_id=4339960

    It seems to be fine for The Economist. I'm sure your standards are much higher though.

    And nothing else you say is of importance, so I just wanted to correct you on that bit. You can continue to flaunt stereotypes :good
     
  2. onceagain

    onceagain Active Member Full Member

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    Look at this, the French are even harder on British universities :lol:

    http://www.ensmp.fr/Actualites/PR/EMP-ranking.html

    Only 1 in their top 22 ranked schools. Funny that how 5 French schools somehow snuck into the list, ain't it? :lol: Kind of like how 4 British schools were in the top 10 on a British list... There seems to be a common theme among all these lists though, wonder what that would be?
     
  3. TFFP

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    :lol:

    I'm gonna check the Icelandic lists. If one of ours myteriously makes the top 10 something fishy is going on :lol:
     
  4. fitzgeraldz

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    Bernard said something during the press conference that made me think about the fight as a whole.

    He said that he's been the underdog his whole life and he accepts that role, there's nothing he'd rather be. He's been counted out his whole career and has accomplished alot.

    He said that Calzaghe isn't young himself ... he's 36 yrs old and in boxing years he's not too far from him. If he's a senior citizen, then Calzaghe is knocking on the door.

    He also talked about how discipline he is and how he trains all the time. "So there's no need to say that i'm in the best shape of my life because i'm always in shape - even my worst critics will tell you that" ...

    He's been able to stay on top for so long because of his hard work and dedication to his craft.

    Nard mentioned that he doesn't drink beer or alcohol - then looked at Calzaghe. I remember hearing David Haye mention something about Calzaghe drinking. Thats a strike against him, no matter how good he is, you get a guy in the ring that has bad habits outside the ring - thats when the inconsistancies start to show.

    I'm not knocking Joe for drinking, but to maintain a good healthy condition drinking shouldn't be a part of your diet. (Just ask Ricky Hatton) ...

    Calzaghe also starves himself to make weight which also is unhealthy because it takes away the nutrients in you body and doesn't build strong muscles.

    Just something to think about ...
     
  5. onceagain

    onceagain Active Member Full Member

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    I don't think because Calzaghe knocks a few back every now and then we can use that against his conditioning. There is nothing wrong with that. Of course not doing that and living a healthy lifestyle like Bernard has will help you in the long run, but there won't be ah uge impact because of Calzaghe's minor (considering Iv'e never heard of it before) drinking.

    Hatton on the other hand is just an unhealthy mother****er :lol:
     
  6. PUNCHDRUNK

    PUNCHDRUNK Darth Booth Full Member

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    Of course, you do realise the performance criteria/indicators that The Economist has used maybe differ from that of The Times Higher Education Rankings? If all revenue streams are included, that will generate a different picture.

    You do know which higher educational institution has the most nobel prizes? A clue, it isn't american:good
     
  7. onceagain

    onceagain Active Member Full Member

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    :lol: Jack do you think I like Bush or something? I hate him as much or probably more than you... talking **** about him isn't the best way to get a rise outta me.
     
  8. Sebastien

    Sebastien Active Member Full Member

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    Still... that's Calzaghe's biggest payday isn't?
     
  9. sonny73

    sonny73 Active Member Full Member

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    Thats based not on education but on the ammount of money people earn after leaving.
     
  10. Sebastien

    Sebastien Active Member Full Member

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    Actually, in most disciplines, the best scholars are in the US, period. They get better funding, they attract better students, they attract the best of all things necessary for successful research.
     
  11. sonny73

    sonny73 Active Member Full Member

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    Not always that simple Im afraid,I know someone who is educated in UK but does work in San Diego because no one in the whole country has his specialist skill in pediatric cancer.It was a German who was behind the moon landing is another good example.
     
  12. Scar

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    Still can't believe this isn't a sell-out. :shock:
     
  13. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    Holy ****! A SCAR SIGHTING!!! :thumbsup


    To be honest, I can see why it didn't sell out. Hopkins still is NOT a draw anywhere. And having someone who's never fought in the US doesn't help the situation as one might think.
     
  14. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    Hey Lance, good to see you man! :happy :good
    That's very true but I just didn't see it coming AT ALL, if it was on PPV it would've more horrible, think they knew it won't be a smart move to put this as PPV. About Hopkins not being a major draw, that might be the case but he still made really good vs Winky/Tarver/Taylorx2, didn't he?
    I know it could've been because Tarver/Winky helped but Taylor didn't have a single major win coming into this, maybe the promotion for that fight was the reason it did good. Also Calzaghe being a complete unknown in the US doesn't help either, I mean seriously man, NO ONE I asked(in the States) knows Calzaghe, not even the casual boxing fans I know. So yes, that doesn't help either.
    By the way, please drop me your prediction, would really like to know. :thumbsup
     
  15. PUNCHDRUNK

    PUNCHDRUNK Darth Booth Full Member

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    If Hopkins loses this fight, I think some re-evaluation of his career will be valid. Three toughest fights and he lost them all. In fact, if he loses and given that Calzaghe is considered as a sheltered limited eurobum by many on this forum, it would be nothing short of humiliating.