Hopkins middleweight resume ?, ATG status ? and prime ?

There is very little depth in Hopkins middleweight resume, not many good wins for a possible ATG and lots of fights against the same mediocre opposition all the time.

 

Calzaghe's had better wins at the top level.

Calzaghe beat Hopkins, thats a big scalp, Hopkins has not got as big a scalp on his resume, Hopkins best ever win is possibly Tarver and he is not going to be a high ranking ATG, Hopkins is going to be a high ranking ATG and Calzaghe has him as a scalp.

Calzaghe's best win at his career weight is Kessler and Hopkins at his career weight is Trinidad, although Trinidad may prove to be better than Kessler {still active and still big fights out there for him} in an ATG sense, Trinidad was a welterweight that was at the end of his career moving up to face Hopkins, Kessler was a prime unbeaten super middleweight, that is why Calzaghe beating Kessler was a better win than Hopkins beating a career weltereight at middleweight at the end of his career.

The next raft of boxers for each standard wise could be, in no particular order, for Calzaghe, Mitchell, Lacy, Reid, Woodhall, Brewer, Eubank and for Hopkins, Johnson, DLH {career lightweight/welterweight}, Joppy, Echols, Allen, Homes, Vanderpool.

The next tier of boxers {generalising}, third division rubbish in UK football parlance are in Hopkins case largely unknown to the masses and unknown in Europe, the same is true in Calzaghe's case the otherway around, the strength of these boxers is neither here or there as top level boxers should beat bottom feeders all the time, its whether top level boxers can beat other top level boxers.

At the end of the day Calzaghe beat Hopkins, Kessler and Lacy and lost to nobody.
Hopkins beat Tarver, Pavlik and Trinidad and lost to Taylor twice, Jones, Calzaghe and somebody on his debut.

My motivation for posting is I think both boxers are great, but they belong in the same ball park, the evidence and facts say that, for some people to say one is great and one isnt is wrong imo and smacks of nationalism, favouritism , ignorance and biasedness.
They are at least in the same ball park, for one to be ahead of the other would be splitting hairs, they are in the same group, I may not pick the same one as you to be ahead in the ATG stakes but there should be no big difference between the two boxers.
It is not possible to justify one being ranked very highly and one ranked very lowly.

 

Calzaghe beating Hopkins and Kessler is better than Hopkins beating Tarver and Trinidad, the next lot of Calzaghe and Hopkins victims are similar.

So the difference between resumes is small, having said the difference is small, Calzaghe beat everybody, Hopkins didnt he has 5 defeats and then of course Calzaghe beat Hopkins head to head.

All that makes it very difficult to 'prove' that Hopkins is a different level to Calzaghe, although I personally would not agree with Hopkins being just ahead of Calzaghe I would not be posting about the issue, what is indefencable is anybody trying to say that Hopkins is in a different league to Calzaghe.

Let me turn the tables and let me ask you, do you think that Hopkins is in a different league to Calzaghe ?

If you do, prove it, why did Hopkins lose to Calzaghe ? {it wasnt age because he was winning before and winning after, with Calzaghe nearer retirement}, why is Hopkins resume in a 'different league' to Calzaghe, may be better, may not be better, possible advantage Calzaghe at the top end, possible advantage to Hopkins at the bottom end of their resume's, but a 'different league' no way Mr Wynn, Mr Rhinehart, Mr McCluskey.
And finally Calzaghe has all wins on his resume, Hopkins does not, when Hopkins goes in against the elite he is average, so says Mr Jones, Mr Taylor and Mr Calzaghe.

I have full respect for Bernard Hopkins and his achievements, its a pity that some people dont respect Joe Calzaghe's and his achievements.

 

Loser:hi:

 

Calzaghe 0 losses, Hopkins 5 losses.

Calzaghe beat Hopkins in the USA

Who's the daddy, who's the daddy.

The king is dead, long live the king.

Where's your title gone, where's your title gone, far far away.

Super super Joe
Super super Joe
Super super Joe
Super Joe Calzaghe:happy

 

Loser:hi: