Hopkins or GGG

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by George Crowcroft, Apr 19, 2019.


Who Better

  1. Hopkins

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  2. GGG

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    30.0%
  1. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Hop was 40 , so would a 40 year old GG lose to Taylor? Probably.

    Would a 37 year old GG even fight a Talyor? Steve Rolls proves he wouldn't.

    Would GG at 43 be able to run Calzaghe as close as Hops did? I don't a 33 year old GG could do it.
     
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  2. PernellSweetPea

    PernellSweetPea Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hopkins was more versatile. He had gameplans which were his strength. I don't think he was a greatly skilled fighter in someways, speed and all that, but he was very intelligent.. I think he would think of a gameplan to stop GGG.. Similar to the Tito fight.
     
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  3. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    In terms of resume, Hopkins without a doubt.

    Who is plain better is hard to say, though. Hopkins showed himself to be conclusively better than anyone he faced at MW bar RJJ and Taylor. Jones was miles better than anyone GGG has fought, though, and Hopkins was probably still pre prime at that time. When he met Taylor, he wasn't the same fighter he was at his MW best.

    GGG has conclusively beaten everyone he faced bar Jacobs and Canelo. Neither of them is the same class as RJJ, but they're better than anyone else Hopkins fought at MW imo.

    The best GGG dominated were probably a bit below the best that Hopkins dominated, but neither man never got to face a truly quality opponent when they were at their best. Still, though, I'd say Hopkins at his best was the more proven fighter. And while he didn't have any physical asset that matched GGG:s prodigious strength, he was the more versatile and cunning fighter, I'd say. Also by far the more devious. GGG isn't a "win whatever it takes" kind of fighter. Hopkins certainly was.

    Therefore I'd pick Hopkins in all three categories, but I think a fight between them would be really close. Probably a controversial decision in Hopkins's favor.
     
  4. BoxingPurest

    BoxingPurest Active Member Full Member

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    all valid points with of course missing the huge difference here and its huge GGG had over 345 amateur bouts that will burn any fighter out as Hopkins was a late starter in the sport of boxing. If your pointing to one fight on GGG record its not a good indicator as to who they would fight does Robert Allen prove that Hopkins wouldn't fight a Canelo of course not! Bad point on your part!
     
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  5. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Got to love it when GGG fans say a 35 year old Golovkin was past his prime for Jacobs and the first Canelo fight, which might be true, and then in the next breath bring up 40 year old Hopkins's losses to Taylor.
     
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    Never said that was a prime Hopkins when he fought Taylor lol,, I said prime for prime i'd pick GGG, Hopkins was a late bloomer in the sport,, I do believe a GGG would beat a Taylor at any stage,, Yes im talking about the same Taylor who has been knockedout by Pavlik, Arthur Abraham and Froch,,
     
  7. dinovelvet

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    No , i don't agree.
    3 round amateur fights with pillows against opposition that was vastly inexperienced than GG is not any harder than a career of pro fights and pro sparring. Training and sparring for 12 rounds >>> training and sparring for 3 rounds

    100's of those amateur opponents could and likely were just young kids too. And wouldn't Hop have less wear n tear on him if he was a late starter :thinking:
     
  8. BoxingPurest

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    Love when a GGG hater acts like Hopkins was worlds better without the resume,, In fact he fought 5 of the same opponents in his middleweight defense record the Record he ties with none other than GGG,, Both great talents,,
     
  9. Bokaj

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    Besides advancing age, I think Hopkins's problem against Taylor was that he still trained as a young man with all the road work he did. The losses made him rethink this, hire Mackie Shilton and get a new lease on his career.
     
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  10. BoxingPurest

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    He was a world class amateur I dont care if maybe you dont really understand or know but it does take a toll on a fighter 345 plus amateur bouts and all the sparring, bag work, etc.. for years and years,,
     
  11. dinovelvet

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    Yeah , because GG is the only guy to ever spar and do bag work throughout his career . :nut:
     
  12. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Think you have to be quite a fan boy to call me a hater. If you actually read my post you'd see that I think they're close quality wise. There's nothing in there that could be interpretated as Hopkins being "worlds better", for the simple reason that I don't think he was.
     
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  13. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    I agree both were great talents, but in reality GGG has 9 successful title defences
     
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  14. PhillyPhan69

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    If we go by unified Hopkins has 9 defenses and GGG has 5....

    Not that, that means much in a potential h2h matchup but it might be a factor in rankings depending on how much weight you/we give to those factors

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Undisputed_champion#Unified_champion
     
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  15. BoxingPurest

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    Okay good then we agree lol
     
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