Hopkins : Prime or Shot?

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  1. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    I give him a 7.
     
  2. C HOP

    C HOP The World Awaits Full Member

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    Who give him a nine!

    they didnt see no prime hopkins! if they think this is a prime hopkins
     
  3. The Phenom

    The Phenom Pretty Handsome Full Member

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    Why are you asking this question.He clearly isn't shot.This would be a ridiculous question even before the Pavlik fight.I gave him a 9 by the way.
     
  4. TommyV

    TommyV Loyal Member banned

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    What's even worse is that you gave him a 2.
     
  5. samuraijack

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    Are you kidding?

    after his last performance how can you ask something so silly?

    Or maybe you just dont understand what means for a boxer being shot
     
  6. PH|LLA

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    as i've been following Hopkins since he demolished Tito, and have since downloaded his career set, i find that giving him 9 is rediculous. I hesitated between 6 and 7. Hopkins in his prime had more pop and his stamina was much better. And he was just as good a ring general.
     
  7. JonOli

    JonOli Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    7 or 6

    It's clear that at his age now that if the right pressure is applied he has acute stamina problems, and can't cope. Also does Taylor beat a Prime Hopkins twice*?

    *yes I know the two wins are disputed
     
  8. C HOP

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    you think that Hopkins that is 43, which fought Pavlik is worth a 9 and also calzaghe in the same in which he looked slow and tired than the hopkins which exposed 1 of the pound for pound best at the time tito trinidad in 1 of the greatest performances of breaking down a fighter
     
  9. C HOP

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    yea if u think about that then its not a insult its a compliment, im saying that hopkins career was great in 2001 when he showed something special you saying that the fighter who just 7 month ago looked tired and slow is near his prime is the insult
     
  10. Sandmanl337

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    While not in his prime, he sure isn't shot yet.. I'd rate him at about 6 or 7 right now.. Though age is getting to him, he's still a P4P boxer..
     
  11. tliang1000

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    i say a five... he doesn't have good snap in his punch and slower, and stamina has gone down. who the hell give it a 9????
     
  12. DINAMITA

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    He is neither shot nor prime, he is past-prime but still capable of fighting at a high level, not closing in on 'shot' at all.

    I give him a 7 based on the Pavlik performance. His prime was very approximately from around the Johnson fight in 1997 til around the De La Hoya fight in 2004, maybe that's a bit generous and he was already past-prime by the time of Oscar. His greatest performance was v Trinidad, absolute peak.
     
  13. Richel Hersisia

    Richel Hersisia Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I think i'm gonna give a 9 too. Ofcourse he is not prime in condition. But he is way more tactical skilled then in his conditionally prime.

    I think this version of B-hop is better then late 90's b-hop. And definitly better then the 04-05 b-hop.

    Frankly, i don't think is ever saw a better fight from him then against Pavlik. Maybe the Tito fight. But if that was his prime, then he is now definitly a 9, at less!!
     
  14. EL-MATADOR

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    i gave him a 5 right in the middle
     
  15. Asterion

    Asterion Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Past his prime. I give him a 5.