That's a pretty fair post and at least you can admit possible flutters. Great stuff. You're right about scoring, as long as people lace up gloves we will have many contrasting opinions.
Sure will.... At the same time, it's pretty worrying that there's such a lack of consensus about who wins fights. Cripples the sport in a way....
Well that's true - i mean look at the conviction of some people already thinking Hopkins won. It was similar with PBF-DLH for some. Variance looks to be here forever. Well, unless we go back to the stone age and fight 25 rounds or more
Yes, possibly up to half these fights would become much much clearer. Those last three rounds can really set apart the men from the boys.
The commentary was infuriating. They might as well have been in Joe's corner massaging his **** between rounds.
Hopkins: 1 (10-8), 2, 3, 6, 10, 12 Calzaghe: 4, 7, 8, 9, 11 draw: 5 115-113 Hopkins 2-3 - Hopkins lands more often and more effective punches, Calzaghe looks puzzled 4 - Hopkins lands nothing of notice, Calzaghe lands enough good punches to take the round 5 - nobody lands anything of notice, probably Hopkins was a little better with punching at close range 6 - drop by drop Hopkins increases the lead with single counters, while Calzaghe lands nothing. Final flurry by Calzaghe doesn't change anything, Hopkins gained too wide lead in punches in the round. 7 - Hopkins lands nothing at all until the last second of the round, but Calzaghe has too wide lead by that point 8 and 9 - it's all Calzaghe, basically, he lands regularly and his punches are cleaner 10 - same as the previous two rounds, but for Hopkins, he is especially good with his right hand 11 - Calzaghe's stepping forward with flurries wins him the round 12 - Hopkins lands more often and his punches are more effective
I don't know abot every round, but it doesn't need to be five years ago. He would only need one more point on my card, I think an extra 5% in the tank would have done it.
I havent seen the fight yet. I would like some analysis from SANE classic posters,not nationalistic fan boys..... Does the result enhance joes all time standing? What of hopkins all time standing now? Many thanks.
Hopkins was nowhere close to being robbed.His egregious fouling and holding was worthy of a point deduction btw. Both of them are overrated.
Nudges him up the ranking a little bit. I had it to him by one point, wins over living legends who have been winning are never to be sniffed at. Unaffected. He came very close to defeating a very good champion and a world class fighter at 43.
He outlanded Hopkins 2 to 1 with WHAT ?? Most of whatever he "landed" wouldn't even feel or look like a PUNCH if it was "delivered" in a fight between two geriatric pensioners at a nursing home. Hopkins was crap too, but he landed way more real punches, and some of them were noticeably snappy and solid, he staggered Calzaghe once and knocked him down once. Plus B-Hop controlled the pace for 3/4 of the fight.
I completely disagree. Calzaghe was looking to throw about two thirds of his highest volume and that is what he did. He kept Bernard moving and under constant pressure with positioning and footwork, Hopkins moved and punched FAR more than he wanted to in the opening rounds. This was the best thing about Joe's work.