Hopkins-Shumenov in 2014: Who wins and why?

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  1. gilad

    gilad Active Member Full Member

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    I have a feeling this fight will be made since both fighters are part of GBP.
    I see this as a very close 50:50 fight at this stage, 6-6 or 7-5 type of fight.
    Shumenov has all the tools to trouble a 49.5 years old version of B-Hop (workrate, reach, strength) but his inexperience and inactivity may cost him... Opinions?
     
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  2. lv lurker

    lv lurker fly on the wall Full Member

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    BHop might get his first stoppage since DLH. Beibut isn't very good.
     
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  3. vast

    vast Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If this takes place it will be nothing more than another disgraceful fight for the aging poppy. Murat was bad enough but Shumenov shouldn't even be champion.
     
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  4. JuggernautBoxer

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    Hopkins takes the cake in this one.

    Don't know much about Shumenov, but Hopkins even in these advanced years of his athletic life will be too much for Shumenov to handle.
     
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  5. pride4jc1222

    pride4jc1222 Active Member Full Member

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    Bernard Hopkins would win this fight. However, this ship has sailed. This fight was made for 2012, but Shumenov did not want in.
     
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  6. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    Shumenov is about on Cloud's level. Both needed a gift against Campillo, so if you take styles and further aging out of the equation you'll get a clear UD for B-Hop.
     
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  7. pecho26

    pecho26 ESB Lurker Full Member

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    Shumenov would lose a wide ud. Except Campillo he fought lower levels fighters, nothing special about him.
    Hopkins would school him and prime Hopkins tkos him.
     
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  8. gilad

    gilad Active Member Full Member

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    I think Shumenov is better than the credit he gets here... He is a much tougher fight for B-Hop than Murat at this stage, a huge light-heavyweight who throws a lot of punches. Campillo was a bad style for him
     
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  9. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    I'd actually like to see it, if Hopkins keeps on fighting.
     
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  10. gilad

    gilad Active Member Full Member

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    You know he will keep fighting...

    Let all the HBO fighters (Pascal, Bute, Kovalev, Stevenson) fight each other in 2014 and then if B-Hop will manage to beat Shumenov we will have a fight for all the belts in early 2015, when he will be 50 years old ! That will be so sick
     
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  11. Cletis VanDamme

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    He's 1-1 against Campillo, but both should have lost the one they won and vice versa.
     
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  12. BOGART

    BOGART Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Not a bad fight for Hopkins actually. Shumenov isn't great but I don't think he's as bad as some think.

    Hopkins is amazing for his age but he's slipped enough for this to be an interesting fight. I'd pick Hopkins but Shumenov would be a semi-live underdog here.
     
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  13. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Shumenov throws a lot of punches...

    Would be fun to see Hopkins deal with it. I have no doubts he would with ease, but nonetheless I think it's a more significant fight than Karo Murat was.
     
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  14. gilad

    gilad Active Member Full Member

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    B-Hop can definitely beat on a good night any 175 pounder not named Kovalev.
    Fighting Kovalev at this stage of his career will be too much for him, it reminds me of Apollo Creed coming of retirement to fight Ivan ("If he dies, he dies") Drago
     
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  15. Koba

    Koba Whimsical Inactivisist Full Member

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    Shumenov ain't bad, but his career is just bizarre - it's like he just wanted to get a belt then hold it hostage forever. Just seems strange for him to now join GBP; the only reason I can see is that GBP/SHO want to Lure the GYM LHW stable (Stevenson, Pascal, Alvarez and Beterbiev) over to SHO to fight for the belts, which would be quite a coup for them. Either that or BHop's looking at retirement and GBP want a presence at 175 which is looking pretty hot right now.

    Thing is I just don't think they're gonna get their moneys worth outta Beibut, he's good enough, but I simply can't see him hanging in there with either Stevenson or Kovalev.

    Against BHop however I'm just not sure. Shumenov is a lot better than Murat, but I'm not sure he's got the ability to deal with Hopkins trickiness, that said, if he comes to fight, he's strong and skilled enough that I wouldn't count on Hopkins winning either, which I doubt is a risk BHop wants to take. Pick 'em for me, but I'm not sure it gets made.
     
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