Hopkins the bigot is at it again

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  1. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    It's funny how yesterday someone posted an interview where Hopkins trashed a Black fighter and he was hailed as mature and intelligent. And everyone said he speaks the truth. No he simply refers to Pavlik as the Great White Hope and now all of a sudden he's an idiot and he's racist. It's ironic too because he was talking about a guy who not too long ago claimed that Whites were the dominant race in the sport of boxing.
     
  2. techks

    techks ATG list Killah! Full Member

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    He later appologized so I guess that's why that later died down.
     
  3. BoxingFanNo1

    BoxingFanNo1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That **** is out of order too Reg.

    Look man all I'm saying is we can't have this **** in our sport. There's enough tensions between different races as it is.

    If you're in a bar and some **** kicks off and a white guy said 'go ahead, I'll never lose to a black boy', you trying to tell me you wouldn't give a ****? No way, you'd take his head off right there and then, or maybe I'm just surmising.
     
  4. roly

    roly Boxing Addict Full Member

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    well you're from the UK and i'm assuming your black? so what "****ed up ****" do you have to encounter in the UK these days?
     
  5. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    If I were to kick the guy's ass, it wouldn't be because he simply used a racial taunt. That **** doesn't matter to me. All people are way too sensitive these days. It surprises me how sensitive White people are on this issue. Race has never been used as a tool to disenfranchise White people in this country. For the life of me, I don't get the anger. Maybe it's because they are tired of being labeled racist, and want to put the label on someone else. I have no idea.
     
  6. Grendal

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    Craig McEwan (white guy) has sparred with Hopkins in preparation for two of his fights and says he was very friendly. No question of any racism towards Craig. Maybe the "mean black racist dude" is all an act!
     
  7. Pharaoh

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    :thinkseriously... is that what you went for... woaw:-(
    I´m actually sad that that was all you could come up with. If thats still a valid reason for "such remarks" then the world is on a down wards slope.
    Skin color is of no issue, least not to sane people
     
  8. Rudyard

    Rudyard **** How You Feel!! HOE! banned

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    Its not going to do nothing...I think its more personal than anything! They honeslty dont like each other!:-(
     
  9. ImElvis666

    ImElvis666 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I am not American so I can't speak for many but I would imagine they don't take well to it is because in recent decades there has been huge efforts made to eradicate racism and to see people holding onto the past is stifling these efforts. In Northern Ireland it is similar with Catholic and Protestant sectarianism. There has been huge progress made since "the troubles" to eradicate the discrimination against Catholics and it pisses people off to see bigots who hold on to the whole "800 years of oppression" as a reason to hold Protestants/British with contempt. The same for the bigots on the other side. So maybe you think it is perfectly acceptable but most who realise what needs to done to rid racism once and for all does not tolerate casual reverse racism as it is counter productive. We should learn from the past, not hang onto it.
     
  10. ero-sennin

    ero-sennin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Actually I'm brown but what I'm talking about is subtle racism when you got people treating you and the other minorities differently than other white people, treating you like you're an alien or something.

    Then there's the the fact that no matter what, we'll never, ever feel like we are truly accepted. Yesterday I was talking to an old white lady. Now I was born here, raised here and I got a British accent. Now I'm talking to this woman and all of a sudden she asks me if I understand english. Now the reason I didn't get mad is because this old lady was sincere, I know she wasn't trying to be an ass or anything, in fact she was really friendly but just came across as a little ignorant. I can tell, I'm really good at reading people. Maybe she couldn't hear me properly because it was so noisy, I give her the benefit of the doubt but it shows you that there is no way in hell I'll ever be accepted fully. Just cuz I aint white, even the nice folks see me as a foreigner so what about the hostile ones? Then some old dude introduces himself. I tell him my name and he's like "sounds foreign" Now what the **** he expect? A brown guy to be called "john Smith". Now with this dude I was more likely to say something to him but because of the situation it was best not to create a scene. Then you got some bitches at work who are like "aint you go a shorter version of your name, it's so hard to pronounce". Man, my name is two syllables long mother****a! jeez. Keep in mind I live in a multicultural city so imagine what's its like in a white town. I'm not saying this is only a UK problem, if I went to Italy or Russia or somewhere else maybe it'd be the same, but it is what it is.

    Now don't get me wrong, the UK is a great place to live, I'm not against Britain or any **** like that but I'm saying, why can't I criticize it? You see, when a white person criticizes the British government, the weather, or anything else it's all cool but if I do it I get told "if you don't like it, go home" or "if you don't like it, why don't you immigrate?". So even though I supposedly have full rights as a British citizen, even though I was born here I can't say anything about it but only the white Brits can? Then these mother****as complain about us not assimilating more. Man, you see why?

    And that's just the subtle stuff I'm talking about, I aint talking about the people at work talkin bout "Amir, Khan the P*ki **** got knocked the **** out" or white folks in a bar starting some **** cuz they don't like no coloured folks drinking there, or my friend getting "go back home in your bannana boat" sprayed on his wall.

    Any mother****a that thinks it's all good in the UK with everything fair and equal needs a reality check. The slavery days may be over but racism is alive and well. I don't live in the US but I know **** like this goes on over there too. That's why I'm saying that if a black person says something like "I would never lose to a white boy", it may be wrong for him to say that but it's not the same as a white person saying it about a minority. The social situation makes it different.

    Like I said, I'm not trying to cause some racial **** and I'm not trashing the UK cuz there are a lot of places where I'd be a lot worse off but as a British man, I got the right to criticize certain aspects of it just like white folks do.
     
  11. Pharaoh

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    I truthfully belive that due to her age and upbringing as a child plays a large role in her asking you that question, and I hope that in time these people will pass on and that the "youth" now will know better, sadly that does not seem to be happening, since youth on all sides adobt some of the parrents views.
     
  12. MexicanJew

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    Hopkins is right, Pavlik was/is a great white hope. Caucasion fighters are lesser seen in the sport since the Golden Era ended.

    Most boxers come from poor areas, and the majority of lower income people that live in urban areas (most fighters come from urban cities) are black or latino

    White fighters receive a lot of hype nowdays for that reason, and are more marketable for the reason that white people pay more attention to a good white fighter than a black fighter or latino

    How is that racist? People will always be inclined to support their own kind, thats natural
     
  13. Clinton

    Clinton Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Hopkins showed a complete lack of class in those comments and was generally and deservedly admonished for it.However,leading up to Englishman Alan Minter's middleweight title fight with Marvelous Marvin Hagler,Minter said,"I'll never let a black man take my title."And just after Marvin ripped it out of Minter's throat in 3,those comments were part of the fuel that propelled a bunch of ingrates to bombard the ring with full beer bottles and tins while Marvin had to be covered up from the barrage and escorted out of the ring instead of enjoying the rightful celebration he deserved,so we can kind of guess what may have happened.
     
  14. Rock0052

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    The problem I see is that the numbers and attention really don't support that viewpoint. Pavlik himself is no star, PPV caliber fighter. Calzaghe was as talented as most active fighters and got no ratings here when he fought, in fact his fight with Kessler was a complete flop ratings-wise here. Wlad can sell out an arena in Germany, but couldn't even get HBO to air his fight with Chambers. The truth of boxing now is that white fighters aren't viewed as being either highly marketable in the US and have to prove themselves more because otherwise, any positive attention they receive is interpreted as them being "overhyped". If this weren't true, surely Pavlik- who is the most visible white American boxer right now with a fan-friendly style and KO power- would be a superstar in the States. Instead, a lot of fans look at him as a joke. He's actually one of the more underrated fighters in the game right now because of how far it's gone.

    If white fighters were truly more marketable in the US, we'd see the proof in the pudding, particularly amongst those who have styles that make for good fights. The ratings and numbers just don't add up to that conclusion, though.
     
  15. uglyandproud7

    uglyandproud7 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Hopkins has a history of prejudiced comments, doesn't change my respect for him as a fighter but it does as a person. Oddly in the US it seems as if prejudiced comments/actions of blacks vs others seems somewhat accpetable.