Hopkins v Calzaghe: The Resume

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  1. DINAMITA

    DINAMITA Guest

    Aside from that being the most feeble line I've ever heard it my life ("shut-it stew"??), I have seen almost every fight Chris Eubank fought from Benn in 1990 onwards. I saw him lose twice to Steve Collins, then after that I saw him fight Luis Dionisio Barrera (35-8-4, had lost his last four in a row) and Camilo Alarcon (13-2) in his last 2 fights before Calzaghe. If that is not the definition of a 'faded' fighter I don't know what is. Have a smoked salad with that stew ****wit :smoke
     
  2. mrplow182

    mrplow182 Seasoned Veteran Full Member

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    I stole that line from King Of Queens......so I happen to think it's an awesome line.....

    No need to resort to swearing young man

    By the by "PACFAN" were Morales, Barrera not faded??? Was Marquez not shop-worn???

    Is De La Hoya not an old man???

    You forget Mr Calzaghe was 36 when he beat Hopkins who had just come off your oh so highly rated Winky vistory, you also forget at the MW and SMW limits Kessler, Eubank, Woodhall (Olympic Bronze Medalist) and Lacy were much better wins, not better names....but better wins
     
  3. toffeejack

    toffeejack Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Been on boxrec mate?

    If you had seen Eubank's performances against Carl Thompson (a CRUISERWEIGHT) after the Calzaghe fight then I don't know how you can say he was faded.
     
  4. mrplow182

    mrplow182 Seasoned Veteran Full Member

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    Yeah he went on Boxrec for sure......he was gone a while before his reply, he seems very angry when you tell him that his opinion isnt the right one
     
  5. smiffy

    smiffy Well-Known Member Full Member

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    ht


    whats the betting you never saw the eubank fight. he was bang on form that night. a far better win than hopkins beating a welterweight in trinidad.
     
  6. mrplow182

    mrplow182 Seasoned Veteran Full Member

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    Course he didnt see it, he goes on boxrec to fish out some names and dates so it looks on the surface as if he knows what he's on about, truth is he knows very little
     
  7. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    You're the noob, Tarver was linear champion when Hopkins beat him.
     
  8. mrplow182

    mrplow182 Seasoned Veteran Full Member

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    The Tarver win is most definitely B-Hops most impressive and defiant win of his career, new weight class, 40 years old, beating the champ and had just come off defeats to Taylor
     
  9. RealIzm

    RealIzm Boxing Junkie banned

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    Hopkins.
    How some people are droning on about this is amazing!! Theres no comparison. People have even said that Joes win over Kessler is what makes his better than hopkins.... How is that? 1 fighter....Kessler......Is that it?
     
  10. pugilist64

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    Glen Johnson = strong but limited the man has 12 losses on his record

    Felix Trinidad = former welterweight

    Antonio Tarver = inconsistant performed

    Ronald Wright = former light middleweight

    Hardly spectacular :hi:
     
  11. mrplow182

    mrplow182 Seasoned Veteran Full Member

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    Eubank is better than Kessler, was better than Kessler and prime for prime would beat Kessler

    I believe the Kessler fight looked a better win cos Joe was 34/35 and struggled early on

    Hopkins has the names on his resume but its a silly comparison cos they fought at different weights until April

    The Ottke-Calzaghe argument has much better validity, cos who is to say Calzaghe wouldnt have beaten Trinidad at MW or beaten De La Hoya at MW......?
     
  12. RealIzm

    RealIzm Boxing Junkie banned

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    Poor job of discrediting mate:) The reason that theres nothing to the Johnson victory is because Johnson was GREEN despite being undefeated, the fact that he has 12 losses now really means **** as he is clearly a better fighter now than Hopkins is and is clearly better now than he was then.
    I think its pretty unanimous that Johnson would hand Hopkins a serious beatdown if they fought in 3 months. Any thoughts?
     
  13. mrplow182

    mrplow182 Seasoned Veteran Full Member

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    Is Johnson still fast enough to find the target?? Dawson is easier to hit than Hopkins remember.
     
  14. RealIzm

    RealIzm Boxing Junkie banned

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    The fact is is that Johnson is fast enough to find the target. I wouldnt say Hopkins is much more difficult to hit than Dawson. Aside from this Johnson currently is a much more rounded fighter, doesnt give up much in way of defense, is very relentless, solid jab, and power to put Hopkins on his back. Hopkins would get ruined.
     
  15. mrplow182

    mrplow182 Seasoned Veteran Full Member

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    He doesn't fake low blows either........but I still dunno if anyone beats Hopkins down