Hopkins v Trinidad: an underrated triumph??

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  1. Jack Presscot

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    Is the best boxer you Schweindhunds could come up with Axel Schultz?
     
  2. Asterion

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    Tito has established himself as the #1 middleweight contender. This was much better than the win over DLH.
     
  3. pugilist64

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    An old boxing adage. You may not have heard it "a good big un will always beat a good little un." Here endeth the lesson.
     
  4. Loewe

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    And it was proven wrong time and time again.
     
  5. Loewe

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    He dominated a mediocre divsion just like Hagler did just for a little longer, defeated greats coming up just like Hagler. But instead of Hagler he wasn´t defeated by a great coming up and he stepped up to beat the man at lhw.
    If people think Hagler is a legend than so is Hopkins.
     
  6. pugilist64

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    Nonsense. The pattern is well established.
     
  7. Loewe

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    My friend you should really work on your German. It´s very very bad, shoe-sniffer.
     
  8. Asterion

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    Hopkins is a legend. Nobody doubts that.

    However:

    1. Hopkins dominated a mediocre division for a decade. Hagler dominated an excellent division for seven years.

    2. Hopkins defeated greats coming up. But those greats were Duran and Hearns. Duran and Hearns are better than Tito and Oscar.
     
  9. Pimp C

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    I remember this fight like it was yesterday. I was at a fight party and said before the fight Hopkins was going to win and people said I was crazy but there's was nothing crazy about my pick. I had followe hopkins for years and it was very easy to see that Hopkins was going to give Tito a beating and a boxing lesson. I knew that a hard man like Hopkins who had been in the ring with a prime Roy Jones wouldn't let a man coming up in weight take his title and steal his spotlight. I think it was a very underrated win.
     
  10. Loewe

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    Oh, well then Leonard-Hgler never happened, Pac never beat Morales, Barrera and Marquez? Just to name some recent examples.
     
  11. Loewe

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    Yep, they were better than Tito and Oscar, no doubt but his division was seen as weak then as today´s division is seen now.

    But that´s not my point. My point is that both did similar things and if one is called great than so is the other.
     
  12. pugilist64

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    Those are the exception rather than the rule.
     
  13. thewoo

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    Sure it is. he could have done the same thing that Jones did and moved up in weight.
     
  14. Asterion

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    I wasn't born in the 1980s. So I'll belief you. I thought that the 80s middleweight division was very good, just like the 70s.

    Hopkins is definitely a legend, imo.
     
  15. Loewe

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    Than, there are so many exceptions in the history of the sport that the rule is meaningless.


    And face who? The same mediocre opponents Jones did face? Beside a weight-drained Toney, already beaten up Hill, old-man McCallum and mediocre - or glorified clubfighter like someone here calls him - Ruiz Jones´ wins aren´t better than Hopkins´ mw opposition. Not really a good alternative to setting up a new record of title defences in history´s deepest division and dominating it for ten years.

    Well, wait 10-20 years and the division under Hopkins´ rule is seen similar.