Hopkins vs Calzaghe (Observations on second viewing)

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  1. SkillspayBills

    SkillspayBills Mandanda Running E-Pen Full Member

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    Cheers Greg :good. Macho it was probably a left cross as Joe's southpaw.

    Paulie i think Hopkins couldn't make the next move i really think he wasn't able to step out of that plan and offer Joe another face, people forget even though i had him beating Taylor he didn't shine in that one when posed problems with speed he sort of went along with it and kept it closer then it need be cos i really think Hopkins should of laid waste to Taylor.

    What Joe did well and better then Taylor for me was cut the ring off and force Hopkins to move his feet to his tune and engaged him for the full 3 minutes and Hopkins tired.

    Bernard likes a economical fight and pace, he found Calzaghe's movements awkward and hard to handle once Joe fully loosened up in the 3rd round. Joe would feint, if B-Hop used a half step back, Joe would pull his punch and stay low and work his way back closer with the distracting jab as i call it and then mooch in and drop a left hand in to body or around to head.
     
  2. Nipple

    Nipple I hate my username banned

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    Hopkins didn't have the legs to match Joe. You can see it from the 8th onwards. His legs wear down pretty visibly. Bad move against Joe, who arguably had the greatest stamina seen in a modern ring .
     
  3. macho_grande

    macho_grande "I'll never get over" Full Member

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    Can't argue with that. As I said, my memory of that fight is definitely skewed.

    My overriding feeling at the time was that Hopkins won, but I'd need to see it again. I do recall Hopkins saying post fight that he didn't have a mark on him, and it was an old school style execution. (whatever that means)

    I'd need to watch it again to comment with any accuracy..
     
  4. dftaylor

    dftaylor Writer, fanatic Full Member

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    Hopkins, as usual, complained a lot after the fight. I love the guy, but he's not the best judge of his own fights.
     
  5. SkillspayBills

    SkillspayBills Mandanda Running E-Pen Full Member

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    :lol::good

    Yeah he talked like he busted Joe up, Admittedly he cut the bridge of the nose but TBH Joe didn't look marked up that much himself.

    Looking back the corner of John David Jackson, Brother Naazim and Roach they really didn't come up with much for Bernard. Maybe to many chefs but i think it was a fight where Roach and Hopkins lacked the bond and knowledge of one another in those deep waters when you know someone for years and know how they tick and what they can and can't do you work with those tools better Roach is a more offensive type coach and he wanted the left hook in behind the right hand but not a lot else from what i heard in between rounds.

    Naazim stayed calm and didn't get to involved but still must of had a few words to Freddie and Nard at times. Dean Powell was good for Joe in corner i must say..
     
  6. SkillspayBills

    SkillspayBills Mandanda Running E-Pen Full Member

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    The Hopkins low blow stuff was Hopkins tired but also hindering Calzaghe's rhythm. He knew Joe had won the two previous rounds and had to find a way to stop the rhythm fighters rhythm so he got the fight stopped when he had a chance.

    He got more aggressive and had some success as Joe lost his way after that break for round 10.

    HBO's commentary in round 1 made Calzaghe's victory all the sweeter. Anyone who's heard it knows. Calzaghe got dropped by Eubank supposedly..
     
  7. cheekyvid

    cheekyvid Detroit, I shall return. Full Member

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    christ on a bike,what a bunch of sadists, i dont think i could force myself to watch it again, despite both being legends. frustrating and boring from what i remember
     
  8. iceferg

    iceferg Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Calzaghe was a south paw so I guess your memory is skewed.
     
  9. FIN

    FIN Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Joe has to be the fittest fighter ever,never seen him tire in a fight,only watched the fight once,live on the night,thought Hopkins nicked it because of the knockdown but it could have gone either way..,will have to watch it again..
     
  10. REEVO

    REEVO Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I thought it was a absolute sham how Hopkins never had at least 3 points taking away and when Joe was clearly getting on top claimed a low blow, i mean that just summed Hopkins up he was a joke that night ****ing winds me up the ****s on here that claim Hopkins won what a load of pony............
     
  11. REEVO

    REEVO Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think you should definately watch the fight again..
     
  12. REEVO

    REEVO Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He didnt win the first 5 rounds.. :huh And he certainly didnt win any late rounds unless your a hopkin fan..
     
  13. REEVO

    REEVO Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :good :deal
     
  14. Boro chris

    Boro chris Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Calzaghe sneaked it in the closest possible fashion but Hopkins was very fortunate not to have points deducted. The Right man won.
     
  15. SkillspayBills

    SkillspayBills Mandanda Running E-Pen Full Member

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    Cheers for replies lads :good, Genuinely shocked some are going back to rewatch it :lol:. It's never been one of the most loved fights but rewatching it as messy as it was as Greg said it's was a nice tactical fight just lacked the clean work really.

    Shocked how wide Lederman had it on his card i thought he'd of had Hopkins but 7 rounds :lol:.