Hopkins vs. Dawson, A good fight for 09

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  1. Canibus81

    Canibus81 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Now that we know Calzaghe doesn't wanna fight Hopkins again and probably won't fight Dawson either since it's too much of a risk, I see these 2 meeting up next yr. Hopkins likes to take risks and take big fights and if this fight happens which I possibly see happening, this could be a big retirement win for Hopkins if he pulls this off. I wouldn't bet against Hopkins right now cause he's hot after his destruction of Kelly Pavlik. Dawson is a good fighter but Hopkins beats him IMO and just his ring smarts and experience is the reason I see him pulling this off.

    He might even knock him out. Lets just hope this fight happens, which I believe it will since Calzaghe ain't gonna take the fight.
     
  2. Lampley

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    Hopkins will seek every other fight out there before he would fight Dawson. First, Chad is not a draw at all. Second, he's better in nearly every aspect to Jermain Taylor, and Bernard is likely to have the same problems -- only worse.

    Dawson would out-speed and out-work Hopkins to a competitive-but-clear decision win.
     
  3. Arriba

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    This would be a great fight for both men in all aspects except money. Dawson is technical, speedy and filled with enough work rate to bother Hopkins and disrupt his rhythm. Hopkins would also have a hard job keeping up with Dawson.

    Hopkins has sneaky power and Dawson has a questionable chin...so that might be Hopkins' way into this fight.

    In fact I wouldn't be surprised if this fight went the same way as Calzaghe-Hopkins.
     
  4. Canibus81

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    First Taylor didn't really beat Hopkins and Second I think your underestimating Hopkins again. Dawson is better than Taylor, but Dawson has shown *****s in his armor and Bernard Would study him to the tee and do an even better job than Johnson did.(who beat Dawson IMO)

    And Hopkins has never backed out of a fight, I seriously doubt if the offer is there he backs out of the fight. He definetly can win this and he would even believe he could win this, which is why he would take it. Hopkins ain't Tarver, and B-Hop punshed Tarver far worse than Dawson did.
     
  5. Sandmanl337

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    A good fight I wouldn't mind seeing.. I'm pretty sure though that Hopkins would fight Kessler quicker than Dawson.. It would be some nice money involved too and could make Dawson a much bigger name..
     
  6. Lampley

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    That's about how I see it, although Chad would fight more cautiously than Joe. In the end, his speed and jab would be enough to offset whatever counters Hopkins landed, short of a KO punch.

    It's sort of ironic that Hopkins would have had a better chance of beating Calzaghe in Europe. Here, aggression counts for much more, even if it's largely ineffective (and I agree with that scoring, but that's a separate argument), while a more methodical approach works well overseas.

    Not sure about the Calzaghe fight, but both Hopkins/Taylor fights would have gone Bernard's way in the UK.
     
  7. Arriba

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    He was already offered...and turned it down. He said Dawson was a nobody and he's only focused on Calzaghe and Jones Jr.

    So he did turn down the fight. He wasn't scared obviously but he turned it down.
     
  8. Canibus81

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    Could possibly, but I don't think Dawson's workrate is as good as Calzaghe's, even though I think Calzaghe would lose to Dawson just based on styles. Lets not forget that many ring side observers thought Hopkins beat Calzaghe(including myself) even though it was close and Hopkins didn't fight as good as he could of when he fought Joe. I think Nazeem Richardson is a better trainer for Hopkins than Freddie Roach is, and that might of had something to do with it.
     
  9. Canibus81

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    Yea but that was before Jones loss and Calzaghe already said he doesn't wanna fight Hopkins again, so that might B-Hops only option to go out for one more big win.
     
  10. Arriba

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    Dawson isn't going to blow Hopkins out. That's why I said it'd be like Hopkins-Calzaghe, even if Dawson employed the same strategy Joe did, THE BEST he could do is a very very close decision.

    Where as there's a possibility Hopkins could KO Chad.
     
  11. Lampley

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    Maybe so. Hopkins can't fight anything like Johnson, however, because he is an ambush fighter now rather than a stalker or a swarmer. I just don't see him landing enough punches to outweigh Dawson's jab and combinations, even if few of those punches land cleanly.

    I think Hopkins should seek out Kessler (slower and more conventional than Chad) for his next big fight. That one would be very interesting.
     
  12. Canibus81

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    Yea your right. I could see those scenerios happening. I think it's more of a dangerous foight for Dawson because nobody has looked good against Hopkins and even Dawson pulled it out, people wouldn't give him as much credit because b-HOP Will be 44 by the time the fight happens. So it's lose/lose situation, unless Dawson dominated Hopkins because it's never happened before.
     
  13. Lampley

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    Agree.
     
  14. Canibus81

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    Yea but Dawson would be more impressive and it could be a way for him to get back at Joe since Dawson is the best guy out there and won't give him a rematch. Kessler was already beatin by Calzaghe, so I don't see Hopkins having any interest in it because it wouldn't prove as much as beating Dawson.
     
  15. Arriba

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    Dawson would probably be in a lose-lose scenario..but if he did the unthinkable and made Hopkins look bad (a small but possible chance), He'd pretty much have a runaway track on fighting Calzaghe.

    Anyways the way I see it anybody who beats Hopkins deserves credit. Hopkins at 64 will see be a credible capable opponent.