Hopkins vs. great LHWs

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  1. Arcane

    Arcane One More Time Full Member

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    :rofl:rofl@people thinking any MW version of Hearns even comes close to beating Hopkins@160, Hopkins wouldn't just outpoint him he would most likely KO him.
     
  2. Hookie

    Hookie Affeldt... Referee, Judge, and Timekeeper Full Member

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    The fights with Taylor were very close and could have gone either way. Those fights were also at 160 were Hopkins had fought for a thousand years... Hopkins should have moved up to SMW and then LHW by this time. He was weakening himself to make 160 at this point.

    With that said, I'm not talking about a 46 year old Hopkins taking on a prime Hill, Jones, etc. I'm talking about a prime or close to prime Hopkins moving up to LHW (maybe with a fight or two at SMW first) to face these guys.

    Archie Moore, Harold Johnson, Jimmy Bivins, Lloyd Marshall, Saad Muhammad, Foster, Tiger, etc.
     
  3. Hookie

    Hookie Affeldt... Referee, Judge, and Timekeeper Full Member

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    In no way am I overrating Hopkins. I'm just trying to get some opinions.

    I think Hopkins is great but I doubt a 46 year old Hopkins could be considered an all-time great at LHW. I do think that if he had moved up in weight several years earlier... he could have won a world title at SMW (even vs. a prime Calzaghe), and dominated LHW as well (maybe even dethroning RJJ).
     
  4. MAG1965

    MAG1965 Loyal Member banned

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    the problem is you guys are comparing Pavlik and Pascal and Tarver to guys like that to Hearns,Hill and Jones.
     
  5. Vic-JofreBRASIL

    Vic-JofreBRASIL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I can see a focused LHW Hopkins maybe beating Victor Galindez, Jose Torres or Willie Pastrano...
     
  6. Vic-JofreBRASIL

    Vic-JofreBRASIL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He would have chance to beat Loughran in my opinion......Good chance....
     
  7. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    I think Loughran, Conn and Pastrano (on a good night) had the style, jab and speed to beat Hopkins.
     
  8. Vic-JofreBRASIL

    Vic-JofreBRASIL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Red, I know you are a Galindez fan, I´m a fan of my homonym Victor Galindez too....
    How do you see Hopkins vs Galindez ?
     
  9. Phys

    Phys Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Can't agree. Knew someone who fought Galindez. Likely both Bhop and Galindez would hit each other in the balls. Form what I heard, when Galindez does it... forget about ever having kids again.
     
  10. Longhhorn71

    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Tunney hits harder than Pascal who hurt or put Hopkins down.

    Tunney would probably TKO Hopkins if he tries.
     
  11. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Im not seeing how you can justify this since Hop never fought anyone at 160 the quality of Hearns. Hopkins isn't a puncher or a brawler and nobody ever outboxed Hearns at ANY weight.
     
  12. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Vic, I think Galindez gets underrated by many when they start talking about his tendency to cut...they make too much of , as with Napoles, IMO...at his best, Galindez was a very effective, strong counterpuncher who could fight off the rops all night and put somewthing together if need be to hurt or deck an opponent. He relied on counterpunching for that strangely successful style that won him many decisions, but he could also fight out of desperation and take a guy's head off, which made him very dangerous. I think that he'd have a good chance of beating Hopkins, and when Bernard tried any rough stuff, any dirty tricks, he'd have more than a comeback from Galindez. I know with the current craze for Hopkins that this is taking a chance in sheer audacity, but I think Galindez would win a very close decision over Hopkins.
     
  13. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Vic, I might add that Galindez could unleash some serious damage upon occasion when desperate..he could deck an opponent suddenly as he did with Eddie Mustapha Muhammad...and Galindez was a much better puncher than Pascal...better than Pascal at everything...and would be a whole step up from the class that Hopkins is used to.
     
  14. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Vic, is that party of your forum name in honor of Galindez? If so, that's two great fighters honored in your name, besides the great Eder Jofre...:thumbsup
     
  15. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Difference of course being that Moore beat a lot of greats at 175 as well, whereas Hopkins hasn't.

    Agree, even though the Hill win is better than any single thing Hopkins has done at 175.

    Who are the fighters at 175 that Hopkins beats that people will care about again in 25 years? Oh that's right, Roy Jones.

    Good call :good