Hopkins vs Haye: Hopkins will get the beating of his life.

Hopkins has been a greater fighter than Haye will ever be p4p, but at this point , head to head, Haye would knock Hopkins into the middle of next week.

 

I think haye should fight Wladamir Klitchko who is in top form at the moment and the only one that poses serious danger to Haye's budding career.

 

Haye is bigger, stronger, more powerful, and even as a heavyweight probably quicker. When has Hopkins taken punches from somebody with half the power that Haye brings to the table? Haye isn't some bum who's going to slowly plough forward looking to get countered. Bernard would be in a right hand-inducced seizure within minutes.

 

That's the problem with this board, too many short memories. Haye is not very technically sound and is very dependant on that right hand. We've seen this script before. Hopkins is no dummy. He's not about to call someone out who he has no chance against. There's a good reason why he keeps making excuses as to why he doesn't want to fight Dawson. Now I'm not saying Hopkins would beat Haye, but he would be competitive. Hopkins is a great defensive fighter, is very crafty, and has a hell of a chin. We've never even seen Hopkins really even hurt out there. To think that a sloppy fighter who's fought mostly stiffs and doesn't have KO power with both hands would steamroll Hopkins is laughable to me.

 

agree with this. fans will almost always over-hype a boxer after a KO win.

 

Doesn't have KO power in both fists? Are you forgetting the fact he nearly toppled Valuev with a cuffing left hand? Hopkins hasn't been hurt for ages because he barely gets hit clean. Haye would be hammering right through his guard. This is a stupid argument, Hopkins is a former MW. Haye is a legit HW right now with massive power, not to mention the speed and accuracy and technical skills to land.

 

It's not a stupid argument. And I don't care what happened with Valuev, Haye's money punch is that right hand. What's silly are the people that actually think that Haye would just walk through Hopkins. I've heard this several times now for almost 10 years in concern with Hopkins. Haye has never fought anyone with half the talent as Hopkins. And I don't care that Hopkins is a career MW. He's a pretty big guy that has kept his weight down due to a lot of dsicipline, somtething Haye knows nothing about. It doesn't matter anyway because this fight will never happen. Haye is going to continue to talk about beating up the Klits while fighting stiffs instead.

 

I agree. This isn't a Trinidad, or a Pavlik situation where we're writing him off. It's not even a Tarver. It's a whole new level. Hopkins might be a magician that pulls rabbits out of the hat but everybody has his limits. This would be taking it way way too far.

Hopkins has been hit more than I can remember in his last two fights. Roy didn't throw a heck of a lot but he landed a few good shots. Ornelas landed a surprising amount. His reflexes aren't what they were as would be expected. He'd also have to put on at least 20lbs which can't help but slow him down, and Haye is already fast and strong at heavyweight so its a double blow in that respect.

Haye also is not the type of guy that is easily defused because he doesn't do the same thing over and over. He wouldn't just step to Hopkins and let Hopkins counter him. He doesn't have a repetetive rhythm. He's not going to stand there and let Bernard hit and then hold, and if he does hold he's not going to be stronger. Hopkins would need a break every round.

 

WTF?

Haye is one of only 3 real in shape heavies atm.

 

I'm not just talking about his physical appearence. The guy obviously had discipline problems at CW which is why he struggled so bad to make the weight there. It's also why struggles with his stamina. Disciplined fighters rarely struggle to make weight and have no issues with stamina. We're talking about a guy who once got stopped by a 40 year old man in the 5th round after he got tired. In the ring, Haye is not the picture of discipline either.

 

What does Hopkins past discipline matter? He's disciplined now but its irrelevant because he can't fight 12 rounds at any sort of pace because he's a middle aged man. His discipline is the only reason he can still compete at that age, it doesn't mean he's good to go for 12 hard rounds. He needs breaks anywhere he can find them, he needs to hold as regularly as possible, he basically old mans his way through the fight. That's fine up until a certain point. If he fights a Chad Dawson, or in this case way overplays his hand and fights Haye, it is not going to work.

 

I dont believe Hopkins saw what Haye did to Ruiz. He called Haye out after Valuev thinking ok not that good, went to a decision, blah blah. I think if he has now seen the whoopin he gave Ruiz will not fancy his chances! Those were some seriously brutally fast accurate shots landing on Ruiz rocking his head back several times. Hopkins is a career MIDDLEWEIGHT who now operates as LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT.

The guy has NO chance. He's 45 years old, he can't knock out people in his own weight class, let alone trying to hurt someone up at heavyweight. haye will walk through Hopkins and spark him, showing no respect for his power, or his famed defense.

Let's be realistic, one bomb from Haye KILLS Hopkins and at the ripe old age of 45, this is no joke.

 

Dawson is a tougher fight for Hopkins than Haye is. It wouldn't surprise me very much at all to see Dawson beat Haye. Unlike Haye, Dawson is actually a technition in that ring. Discipline matters a lot in the ring with Hopkins. He is very smart and crafty. He knows how to capitalize on mistakes. Haye has been feasting on stiffs. Look at this thred. You have Haye fans bragging because they think Haye, a HW, can beat up on a 45 year old career MW. If Haye did fight and beat Hopkins, that would almost certainly be the best win of his career.

 

Ruiz is a joke. This is a guy who has lost to two career MWs. Hopkins is not John Ruiz. What Haye did to Ruiz is irrelevant to Hopkins. Seriously, who is the best figther that Haye has beat? Mormeck?

 

...If it's said long enough, you have to think it's going to be true eventually, man.