Hopkins vs Haye: Hopkins will get the beating of his life.

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  1. TheGreat

    TheGreat Boxing Junkie banned

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    ATM he is no threat BUT if he were to move up and adjust to the weight well, he could be, there isn't a fighter who is without flaws but Dawson doesn't have the glaring holes alot of guys have. Trust me Dawson is the best P4P guy north of 147.
     
  2. CarlesX7

    CarlesX7 Shit got real! Full Member

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    That's his fighting style, it's not a flaw.

    You can't say that i.e. Wlad Klitschko has a flaw because he can't fight like a swarmer. That's how he fights.
     
  3. HENDO

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    Honestly, from what I've seen, I would favor Ward, and possibly Dirrell.

    And these are guys who are fighting live competion. Dawson is fighting the ghosts from Christmas past.
     
  4. HENDO

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    It is a flaw when you're fighting against a guy like Tarver who is also a counterpuncher, and you do just enough to leave the judges wondering who won.

    Hopkins is an example of a guy who can fight both ways. Ward can fight both ways. Dirrell can fight both ways.

    Haye can fight both ways. Floyd can fight both ways.


    Dawson is a great at what he does, and he's pfp because of it, but that doesn't mean he's not one dimensional.
     
  5. TheGreat

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    Dawson is simply fighting and beating the best, who beat Adamek who can really fight, and he is gonna take out Pascal next. BTW Glenn Johnson looks damn good at his age, his workrate and technique is very solid, I wouldn't pick too many guys to beat him.
     
  6. NOTINDAFACE

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    :rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl You are biased if you think Hopkins stands a Chance:hi:
     
  7. TheGreat

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    I wouldn't call Dawson 1 Dimensional, Hopkins AND Calzaghe sure saw something in him that made them not wanna fight him.
     
  8. HENDO

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    That might be true, but if Dawson goes in with Haye, he loses, and more convincingly than Hopkins.

    And in my opinion is the much less dangerous opponent and winnable fight than Haye.
     
  9. HENDO

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    You're right.

    And in the words of Floyd, "Who's Chad Dawson?"

    You and I know who he is. But your average guy on the street doesn't.

    And while people in the US may not know who Haye is, people in Europe know who he is.

    Chad Dawson is high risk, low reward, and he's a spoiler. He's not an entertaining fighter to the general public.
     
  10. TheGreat

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    Dawson would really beat the living **** out of Hopkins, about as bad as anyone would right now, he just isn''t as big or powerful as Haye. Neither fight is winnable for Hopkins IMO.
     
  11. CarlesX7

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    Props to Dawson then, as he managed to totally outclass a guy like Tarver despite being flawed.

    To be fair, he didn't 'do just enough to leave the judges wondering who won', he dominated the guy.
     
  12. TheGreat

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    Dawson is routinely ducked for a reason, everyone in the fight game knows he has the goods. The only way for him to get noticed is to eventually go up to HW.
     
  13. HENDO

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    Come on man.

    Who's the last guy Dawson "beat the living **** out of?"

    That's not what he does. And he's not exactly a big LHW. He's a smaller guy and he'll get roughed up in the clinches.

    And it's not like he has power. True, he has speed, but Hopkins skill helps him negate fighter's that have speed.

    And people say that speed kills Hopkins, but the last guys that "won," although Calzaghe really did win, were Taylor and Calzaghe. Both of which came foward.

    Dawson doesn't come foward. He is too robotic when he does it, and makes for an easy target for a guy like Hopkins.

    It will be a very boring, tenative fight with a lot of feints, a lot of clinches, and very little action.

    It's definitely not TV friendly. Both guys will look bad.
     
  14. CarlesX7

    CarlesX7 Shit got real! Full Member

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    Also in the words of Mayweather: "Dawson is the best p4p fighter in the world".

    Anyway, claiming someone is one-dimensional doesn't really mean much. If a guy fights one way and dominates his opponents, he could care less about how we describe him.

    Look at Wlad Klitschko and Dawson. They fight one way, yet they're beating everyone in their paths and they do it convncingly.
     
  15. HENDO

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    :lol:

    Hardly dominated.

    Did you watch Hopkins vs Tarver? That's DOMINATING a guy. Tarver and Dawson played the, "you punch, I punch" cover up game.

    Dawson won because of his output, youth, and speed.

    Hopkins beat the **** outta a younger Tarver, and went in for the kill, and almost knocked him out. Completely outclassed him.

    Dawson defenitely does not fall in that category with this fight, hence why they needed a rematch in the first place.