Hopkins vs pascal round 1

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  1. cesare-borgia

    cesare-borgia Übermensch in fieri Full Member

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    This may be a silly question but hopkins was clearly winning the fight before the rabbit punch kd in the closing seconds.
    Does that make the round 10-8 pascal or 10-9 pascal like one judge had it because b-hop was winning it?
     
  2. Big Left

    Big Left Boxing Addict Full Member

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    it is a matter of personal opinon - if you think Hokpins totally dominated and that it was just a flash KD then it can be a 10-9 round for Pascal.
     
  3. Uncle Rico

    Uncle Rico Loyal Member Full Member

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    In the knock-down rounds, I had Pascal taking them both as 10-8s. But even then I had Hopkins win 114-112, showing how dominant he was in that fight.
     
  4. TommyV

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    I'm not saying you should score it 10-10, but a case could be made that you could. It depends how much emphasis you put on a knockdown in the context of winning a round. 10-8 would mean that Pascal was winning the round and knocked him down for the extra point. 10-9 should really mean that the round was pretty even with the knockdown meaning it was 10-10 minus a point for Hopkins on the KD. If you think Hopkins was winning and it was 10-9 Hopkins, you could make a case that he still won the round, had a point taken away for the KD, making it 9-9, or a 10-10 even round on the 10 point must system. By the letter of the law, it could have been called 10-10 despite the KD, if you thought Hopkins clearly won the round. I think anyway, I'm not sure how far KD's go in terms of counting towards a fighter winning a round.
     
  5. cesare-borgia

    cesare-borgia Übermensch in fieri Full Member

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    I think he clearly won the round but define dominated? khan maidana round 10 and khan scores a kd only then does it become a 10-9 round or in this case as well?
     
  6. Stick and Move

    Stick and Move New Member Full Member

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    I thought B-Hop was winning the first round up until the knock down. Just because there is a knock down doesn't automatically make it a 10-8 round. Hopkins was controlling the round, and would have won it 10-9.

    So scoring the round 10-9 to Pascal is the correct way to score that round in my opinion. Other than 10-8 which is unfair.
     
  7. Badgeronimous

    Badgeronimous Will you stand? Full Member

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    You had a slightly bizarre situation after 3 rounds whereby Hopkins probably would of been 5pts down on many peoples cards, but if the KD's didn't happen he'd probably of been 1pt up.

    It's a 6pt swing.

    I ask myself, does 2 very soft knock downs really merit a 6pt swing? It feels like Hopkins was double punished for them on the cards.
     
  8. Flash Jab

    Flash Jab Boxing Junkie banned

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    It reminded me of Clottey/Cotto slightly.
     
  9. naldo marshal

    naldo marshal heavyweight champ Full Member

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    :good
     
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  11. di tullio

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    The knockdown was bull anyway. I'd like to see the Ring give Hopkins their title.
     
  12. lefthook

    lefthook Active Member Full Member

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    I always thought a round automatically became a 10-8 round as soon as there was a knockdown...Sure Hopkins was winning the first but he was not dominating at all.So a 10-8 round to Pascal is fair to me.And the punch WAS NOT an illegal punch.He caught Hopkins behind the ear.And by the way Hopkins was , it was the only place pascal could hit him.
     
  13. Hozumi's Hook

    Hozumi's Hook WHO NECKS!?!? Full Member

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    It was a legit knockdown end of. Dont even bother trying to say it was a rabbit-punch. The replays are there for everyone to see.
     
  14. dodong

    dodong >>PACQUIAO Full Member

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    seems like the referee didn't even think it was a knockdown at first until somebody from outside the ring told him to continue the count.
     
  15. drozzy

    drozzy AERE Full Member

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    Same here. Sadly.



    First KD was illegal?!? Crack isn't good for you.

    Was Johnson's KO of Green illegal as well? Green walked right into that punch. BHop was moving his head when Pascal's punch was launched. Legal and unfortunate for BHop, get the **** over it.