Hopkins vs Pavlik: Be Real AMSTERDAM!

yeah he's nearly the same guy. don't you recall bhops starting real slow and coming to life at the end in the taylor fights and him getting criticism for it 2x? the point being that hops wasn't exactly fighting an action fight for 12 against Taylor. And, I'll have to check the punch stats, but i'm pretty sure calzaghe threw a ton more punches than jt in either of the those fights, calzaghe is just more exhausting. And as for the "*****" move, I'm sure if Hopkins needed to and the opportunity was there vs JT (i.e., he was actually hit low as he was by Calzaghe) he would have taken it. Totally different fights (calz and jt). Bhops has been boring enough dating back to fights pre JT (and definitely the JT fights) and NO he hasn't slipped all that much. So if you don't like Hopkins boring style, than that's fine I just don't think we can objectively say OK now Hopkins has miraculously gotten "shot" between the Tarver fights (again he looked as good or better than vs JT) and the Calazaghe fight. BTW, the Calzaghe figth was close and it was grueling for Bhops to fight his defensive fight against the relentless calzaghe. And calzaghe is the top smw fighter still.

All that said, Pavlik may well have too much and might get the KO. It's just not going to be because Hopkins has faded significantly since 2006 or so.

 

Hi to the man?

 

Great post from capfunds obviously. And I do agree Hopkins has a major disadvantage tryin to pace himself while the younger man is pushing himself to the limit at all times ( and winning rounds). That's how most knew Nard would lose against JC - you can't outslick a busier opponent with a huge deficit in average punches thrown and landed. But there is always this no small detail in boxing that is how styles will match up... Oh, yes and you can't just suppose Pavlik wins because he beat Jermain twice and JT beat BH twice.

 

I've been thinking alot of the same things. Good points here.

 

Just saw him in Boo's thread saying, of course, Bhop is a great win for Joe C and he will EASILY beat the one dimensional, slow, plodding, ordinary Pavlik there by making it unnessecary for Joe to back up his words and fight Pavlik. :rofl

 

I think that Hopkins will win a close UD over Pavlik.

:good

 

I am from Scotland, different country look it up.

I think that Hopkins will be able to win enough of the early and mid rounds by counterpunching and taking away Pavliks jab which he is very good at.

Pavlik sets everything up with the jab, I think when Hopkins takes it away with his range and right hand that Pavlik will have no answer. He just does not throw lead punches.

Pavliks workrate will take over late on in the fight but I think Hopkins will have enough to win 7 rounds.

 

I would not be surprised to see Pavlik win. I just think he gets hit regularly and that is not something you want to do against Hopkins.

I think that Hopkins will have enough to win 7 rounds wither or not he gets the descison is another matter.

I would be surprised to see Hopkins get knocked out, if he gets stopped I think he will be on his feet. But I cannot see that happening either.