hopkins vs toney 185 who wins

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  1. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    This would be a boring ass fight, guranteed! If this was made years ago it could have brought some more excitement, when Toney was sharper and Hopkins was more aggressive.

    At this point I think you'd see little engagement between the two.

    I'd take Hopkins to win a wide decision. I think he'd fair better weighing in at 185 (he was 180 fight night against Pavlik) than Toney would losing weight so fast (if he even could). Hopkins would have the faster hands, faster feet, better footwork and ring generalship.
     
  2. Jack Presscot

    Jack Presscot Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If Hopkins takes the challenge, it will be at HW.
     
  3. Kid Cuba

    Kid Cuba Boxing Junkie banned

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    B-Hop, but can Toney even get down to 185? At this point he would have to cut off one of his legs to make 185.
     
  4. p.Townend

    p.Townend Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I would have backed Hopkins at any weight against Toney.
     
  5. TheSweetScience

    TheSweetScience Linares the next ATG!!! Full Member

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    at this point Hopkins would probably win at heavyweight vs Toney. If Toney trained hard and was in the prime of his career and stayed in the 168 area, he would have beat Hopkins with his speed.
     
  6. MagnificentMatt

    MagnificentMatt Beterbiev literally kills Plant and McCumby 2v1 Full Member

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    ...He was weight drained though, although RJJR prime for prime would give him fits anyway.
     
  7. Brickhaus

    Brickhaus Packs the house Full Member

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    Toney would pass out during the ring walk if he had to make 185. I don't care if he trains for the next 2 years, and actually takes it seriously for the first time in a decade, there's just physically no way he can boil down to 185 now that he has all those extra fat cells.
     
  8. headhunter

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  9. 2ironmt

    2ironmt Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :lol::lol: toney's just searching around for a payday knowing that he's done at any weight.
     
  10. TommyV

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    Hopkins late TKO.

    I don't care how good Toney's chin is, he ain't making 185 without being SEVERLEY weight drained. He'll take far too many punches and he'll be pulled out or stopped on his feet.
     
  11. FROST

    FROST Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If Toney somehow managed to make 185lbs again (which is not realistic), he'd be too weighdrained and past his best to beat Hopkins right now. Hopkins still fresh, or so it seems.

    But a 1994 version of Toney, at 185lbs at that (meaning he's at a comfortable weight for him at that point), would have beaten any version of Hopkins. Toney could fight aggressively at that time when he had to, he'd throw combinations, cope with everything Hopkins brings to the table (Hopkins wasn't superman like RJJ) and win a decision, probably a boring one. Hopkins has nothing to bother a prime Toney, he couldn't counter the master counterpuncher Toney effectively enough - he would still be game tho
     
  12. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    No need for weightdraining.

    Make the fight open weight.

    Each man enters the ring at whatever weight he pleases.


    Hopkins (at around 194 on fight night) defeats Toney (at around 224 on fight night) by wide UD.
     
  13. pit

    pit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Tony would never make 185 and if he did , hopkins would beat the crap out of a weaken tony .
     
  14. FrochPascal

    FrochPascal Boxing Addict Full Member

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    so a heavyweight fight then basically.

    hmmm im intrigued by this match up even tho its very unlikely to ever take place. I do seem to remember bhop saying something about maybe going up to cruiserweight and anyway maybe at a slightly higher weight toney could(somehow) make it. Maybe hes advisors etc should show him some undercover burker king footage of them putting all sorts of crap in hes food then he might go off it....or maybe not

    anyway in the past at middleweight i woulda said toney...