"Hopkins wants Calzaghe next

If comparing their professional careers , depending on the judgments that are infered from that, one may also want to consider factors in supplement to age, like their relative number of years competing as professional boxers in conjunction with the number of fights each had when comparing the age (and there are arguably other factors also; some may compare their competition for a given number of fights in lieu of age). I’d say, though that it’s hard to doubt calzaghe’s courage at this point, at least as evidenced by his accepting the Kessler fight (and assuming that the fight goes through as planned). I'd guess we'll have more answers for comparison after both of their careers are over.

 

Yep.

Beat two fat welters and pull overhyped cinema actor into the ring.

Oh year, overclinch another smaller guy.

 

Prime Hopkins was a weight class under Calzaghe, setting a record for Middleweight defenses. That's hardly ducking anything weight classes above him.

 

Calzaghe clearly said in his biography that he will travel to the States if a fight with Bernard is possible.

 

That would be an interesting fight. Hopkins is one of my favorite fighters, but so is Calzaghe. Calzaghe is faster that Hopkins, would be a problem, however, Hopkins is very sly in the ring. I would like to see that fight, but I think we will probably see Calzaghe Taylor first.

 

So what?

Mosely never was close to the Oscar's quality of opposition and unlikely to come in the future.

But he beat him twice.

BoreHop is clever enough to understand that, so no fight with Calzaghe is not going to happen.

 

Wow I actually agree with hudson.....

Listen to all of the Calzaghe fans come out in unison saying things like Hop doesnt take big challenges.

I will end that nonsense really quickly................

Please, anyone thinking the same way as what hudson quoted, answer me one thing....

Name one fighter that Calzaghe has fought that is 1/100th the fighter Hopkins is???? Just one.....?

 

What a ...!

Hop was avoided by most of stars until DK decided he is old enough to loose to Tito. His resume was NO better at the age of 35.

Calzaghe is just in the same situation.

Calzaghe has never fought anyone like Hop - and won't if Hop continues bitching. His win over Tito thrusted him to the top of the game, but he rejected $6m for rematch with RJJ. He preferred to beat average opposition waiting for another small guy.

 

Look joe has been the top dog of the super middles for a long time but please dont put him anywhere near bernard hopkins..Thats really going too far..

joe hardly got his name mentioned until he belted the now known overhyped jeff WHERE DID THE LEFT HOOK GO lacy...

All i know is if i were in my mid 30's and just beat lacy in what was a dominating display i would of NEVER considered fighting anyone other than the top dogs..Bika,manfredy not even kessler are big enough fights for a man in his mid 30's who continuely claims he wants to be the best pound for pound..

I dont want to hear that b-hop is ducking as he aint the only top line boxer out there..

Joe has had a good career but he hasnt really put in the effort to step it up a notch.

I aint a hater of joe as i admit hes dominated the supermiddle division for along time,all im saying is he has gone 10plus years without going to states for a HUGE fight and i doubt he really wants to..

Hatton used to be tailed with the same brush as a fighter who liked his comfort zone.but has really gone out of his way as a true champ to change that by hitting the states to take on some career defining fights.I know he hasnt had huge fights as of yet but he is atleast looking like he will do so..

COME ON JOE STEP UP...im a little sick of hearing pro calzaghe fasns making excuses that every1 is ducking you...Your 35yrs old with a washed up eubank and overhyped lacy as your top wins..

COME ON...

 

Well, didnt we just show we have no idea what we are talking about now, didnt we....

First, King had NOTHING to do with Hop fighting Trinidad. That fight was the final of a MW unification tourney. Try again.

Second... By Hops 14th year as a pro (what Calzaghe is at now)....he had already fought RJJ, PRIME Glen Johnson, Prime Tito Trinidad, Echols, Vanderpool, Holmes, etc. You cant even compare the two resumes at that point, its ridiculously in favor of Hops.

Third, Roy offered Hops 60/40 on tv...yet never offered more than 70/30 when they sat down to make the fight. Plus wouldnt agree to a catchweight (notice Hop fought Winky at a catch...what is fair is fair). Now if Hop agreed to 70/30, he probably couldve gotten the catchweight. Its hilarious to me how Jones fans blame Hop for not making the rematch happen and Hops fans do the same back....Im a fan of both fighters, and I am here to tell ya, they were BOTH too ****ing stubborn to make that **** a reality.

And finally, this Hop beat smaller men garbage is just that...garbage! Do we discount Hagler's wins vs Hearns or Duran just because they were smaller men? HELL NO!!! They were great fighters...as were Oscar, Tito and Winky...regardless of what weight they started their careers at.

Try arguing your ridiculous opinions with someone who doesnt have the knowledge to prove your full of **** next time.

And I repeat my question....

Name ONE fighter Calzaghe has fought that is 1/100 the fighter Hopkins is?

Ya cant, cause there is none.

Tito, Oscar, Johnson, Echols, Tarver, Winky, Holmes, Vanderpool, Taylor (most feel he won at least one of those fights...and by most I dont mean Hop fans...I mean boxing fans), Eastman, Joppy, etc. Bernard has one of the better resumes out there when you actually look at it objectively and fairly....tho by the ridiculous tone of your posts and the fact that you attempted to MAKE **** UP (that I had to smash to bits) to make your arguement...I doubt you will attempt to do that.

Again, try someone that knows LESS about boxing than you do next time.....ya might have better luck.

:hi:

 

ozziebattler, you look with your post as a hypocrite.

First, you say Lacy and Kessler are not enough for top P4P fighter.

Next, you say b-hop aint the only top line boxer out there..

Who's than? Who is 'other than b-hop' who is better?

Don't mention semi-retired Tarver please.This guy can't do anything of worth without second chance

Calzaghe should make a step, you say... What step could be more HUGE than fight with B-Hop?

 

sues2nd

Well, didnt we just show we have no idea what we are talking about now, didnt we....

The promoter of both Tito and Hop had NOTHING to do with Hop fighting Trinidad

RJJ - lost
Glen Johnson, Echols, Vanderpool, Holmes - these guys became quality opposition because Hopkins defeated them?

If you try, you'll see many of them lost to the guys Calzaghe won :blurp

It was still $6m and Hop turned it down for Hakkar and Joppy :nut With vague perspective to fight smaller and less skilled guy for bigger money... Sometime, someday.

UPDATE: and he divided these bigger money 25/75 and had no problem with it.

Chris Eubank

Whether he qualifies for 1/100 :nut or not, this cannot deny the fact B-Hop avoids Calzaghe. He was calling out dead RJJ before taking Winky although Joe is better than both.

 

It's just a disgrace how Lacy 'ducked by Joe to injuring arms for excuse' became 'overhyped'...

Come on, Joe... Forget about BitchHop, just do your work and leave his nuthaggers with 'who has he fought' excuses...

 

Stop while your behind....I understand your new here. But you really need to do more homework.

First, Hops promoter was not King. It was Dibella at the time, King promoted the tourney. AND Hop was a part of the MW unification tourney because he held a share of the MW titles....plain and simple. Again, it had NOTHING to do with KING!!!

Second, you mentioned that Calzaghe by the age of 35 fought better comp than Hopkins....look I will quote it for ya.

Yet you ignore the fact that Hopkins started his career later in life than Joe did. Instead, to be fair you must look that in the 14 years Joe has fought compared to the 14 years that Bernard has fought.

And in those 14 years....Hopkins resume DWARFS Calzaghe's.

Yes he lost to Jones, but Jones is better than ANYONE on the list of fighters that Calzaghe had the balls to step in the ring with.

And a PRIME GLEN JOHNSON wasnt a great fighter??? You serious?

atsch

And I love how you didnt include Tito in there...who again is leaps and bounds a better fighter than ANYONE on Calzaghe's resume.

Now as for the Jones - Hopkins negotiations....you obviously DONT like Bernard, so you will never look at it fairly...but, do some research, it was both of their stubborn egos that didnt make the fight happen.

And 25/75 is a nice number to use in your arguement (I believe you are referring to the Oscar fight....), but it also was discounting the share of PPV money he was to recieve (another thing Roy was unwilling to give).

As for the Hakkar and Joppy fights instead of the Jones fight??? How long have you been watching boxing? Hakkar and Joppy were mandatories (and Joppy was a DAMN good fighter BTW)....now with Hopkins going for the consecutive defense streak (and with the Jones fight falling through, why shouldnt he??), it would be impossible to achieve if he didnt take those fights...because he wouldve been stripped of the title.

Learn something please....this is getting sad.

Finally....you brought up Eubank. A great fighter in his prime. I was waiting on this one (considering its the only one who even warrents mentioning...).

Now, objectively, tell me if Eubank was still a top fighter when Calzaghe faced him?

Seriously....go to boxrec (where most of your vast knowledge on the sport comes from...:verysad ) and check it out.

Thank you...

Now stop arguing, your only exposing your lack of boxing knowledge. Try it with someone who doesnt know what they are talking about. Cause right now brotha....your in over ya head.

 

Bernard has ducked Calzaghe in the past. I see him ducking Calzaghe again.