Hopkins was everything Floyd was (and was not), yet made much less $ over his career

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  1. Peppermint

    Peppermint Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hopkins has made about 50 mil, give or take, over the course of his boxing career. He has seldom fought on PPV, and yet he has always taken on the best, took on all challenges, and gave the fans the fights that they wanted. Not to mention, he did all of this at an advanced age. Mayweather is hugely popular because of his skills and work ethic. Hopkins has him matched in both departments.
    Hopkins never did have the "hype" that seems to encapsulate Floyd, but he was/is the real deal. It seems that the difference between these two is the fans perception of these two.

    It is almost like having two publicly traded companies, both companies performing equally as well, but only one is putting out positive news releases, sending there stock soaring. In my opinion Hopkins stock may have been somewhat undervalued, whereas Floyd's has been valued at 300% off the book price. Well, Hopkins may be done and business may be closed (or will be shortly). But, as for Floyd, perhaps it is time to sell or simply hold, Buying in is likely an investment not worth making.
     
  2. The difference is that Floyd is now backed by a machine that understands peoples psychology and marketing. Floyd never had much fan base outside of his core in Michigan and a little in Vegas before the De La Hoya bout. He was very respectful in interviews and super quiet outside of the ring. Hopkins was relatively unknown to the public until he fought Trinadad in 2001. He had been fighting since '88 and did not get any real fan fare until 13 years later. He had to act a fool just to get that fight, so did Floyd for the HBO 24/7, where he had 50 Cent, his uncle going to court, flaunting money and people ate that **** up.

    The point of the story is people say the like humble fighters but thats not true. Maybe for White fighters and Asian but nobody watches a Blck fighter unless he acts like a arrogant fool. If I'm wrong then tell me why Adrien Broner gets more fan fare than Andrade, Crawford, and Ward put together. They are better fighters, quiet, respectful but I don't see as many threads for them like Mayweather or Broner.
     
  3. Peppermint

    Peppermint Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I agree with a lot of this except that about Asian fighters. A ton of talented Japanese and Thai fighters have gone almost completely under the radar for decades. I agree to an extent about black fighters, though at the end of the day performing is what matters. Although I do remember the late great Vernon Forrest having a very small fanbase and remembered thinking how sad that was because he was such an excellent fighter and kind and humble man. That said many of most famous and popular boxers of all time have been Black Americans. Hearns and Hagler for instance were hard guys, but never had to act a certain way to gain hype. They were simply great fighters and that was enough.
     
  4. rhin0z>

    rhin0z> Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Floyd just filled a void after Tyson and Oscar. There was a huge void left after that. He was in the right place at the right time. He was the most talented boxing had at the time.

    But give it to Floyd he played that hand very well with marketing and overhyping.
     
  5. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    In a few years after boxing, Floyd will be broke, and Hopkins will still be a millionaire.
     
  6. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    Ray Leonard? Hearns? Hagler?
     
  7. alakran

    alakran Boxing Addict Full Member

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    the difference between Hopkins and Pac/Floyd is that these three beat the ppv king in ODLH but hopkins went on and lost soon after while Pac and Floyd seemed undefeatable. Also Hopkins has lost many times because he has had tough times with faster younger fighters
     
  8. lenin

    lenin what the **** you say? Full Member

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    If Hopkins was undefeated he would have made the same amount of $
     
  9. lenin

    lenin what the **** you say? Full Member

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    and if Mayweather had 7 losses he wouldnt be making what he's making today.
     
  10. MN_Logan

    MN_Logan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Because Floyd is an obnoxious manchild who constantly talks out of his ass. For whatever reason the public eats that **** up.
     
  11. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    You are correct Sir 5 yrs after his last fight Floyd will be on skid row
     
  12. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Hopkins isn't undefeated because4 he took on all comers There will NEVER be another fighter come close to what he has achieved.
    Oh BTW if these fights had been held anywhere but Vegas Floyd would have 2 losses on his record TODAY!! Castillo 1 & Maidana 1. Wise up and smell the roses Mayweather is all smoke & mirrors Floyd is nt worthy of carrying Nards jockstrap
     
  13. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Bernard Hopkins in all fairness has really had only 3 losses. A close one to Chad Dawson & a unanimous dec to Sergy
    Kovalev. Yes Jones jr beat him too but ran rather than give him a rematch until Roy needed the $$$$.
    Bernard & Manny have losses yes because they have taken on all comers and ducked NO ONE . Floyd only has a BOGUS 0 he's really been beaten twice before
     
  14. Gneus7

    Gneus7 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Floyd and his people did a great job of promoting him. Another difference is that Floyd remained unbeaten and is also a more athletic type which I think also helps a bit.
     
  15. BEATDOWNZ

    BEATDOWNZ Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No. Just No!
     


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