Hopkins win v trinidad - is it hugely overated?

Hopkins was 36 at the time, when most start to decline. And Tito was #2 P4P if i'm not mistaken. And it's the way Hopkins beat Tito. He showed a little bit of everything. He didn't just overwhelm Tito with his size or power.

 

Really?

 

I just think that the 147 / 154 division was hot and to be honest 160 wasnt at that time and Bernard was flying under the radar just doing his thing , and was kind of under appreciated.

 

The general concensus is that you knock Trinidad down, he gets up and knocks you out. It's part of what made him so watchable, so marketable.

His chin was considered better as he moved up in weight.

As far as your questions go, to a certain extent yes. To site them over rating Trinidad is unfair. His only loss was to a MW ATG. His retirement robbed us of the chance to see his true level. Had he stuck around and fought other guys, we'd have a better idea.

 

First of all, even though Tito was knocked down several times as a Welterweight, he was never really hurt. His knockdowns were usually the result of poor balance and foot-work.

He destroyed the 4 guys he fought at 154 then absolutely crucified Joppy, who was probably rated as the #2 Middleweight at the time. Trinidad was on an amazing run and had an unstoppable aura around him. It was a great win for Hopkins.

As for the Bradley comparison, if he moved to 154 and beat say, Kirkland and Canelo before moving to 160 and destroying Chavez or GGG, don't you think Martinez would get credit for beating him?

 

No, Bhop deserves the props he gets for it.

Ppl gotta get over that **** about Tito bein too small. He legitimized himself at MW by takin a belt off Joppy. Bhop was just too damn good for him. And even then in his mid 30s, ppl were sayin Bhop was too old.

 

Bailey makes alt accounts all the time to help his agenda.

 

Pick a win, any win and I'll discredit it.

 

Leonard was being bashed by the media as a pretty boy. They doubted that he had an engine under his gleaming hood. Duran made this point during interviews over and over again. Leonard decided to fight Duran's fight and only just lost out.

The re-match shows Duran was no match for Leonard.

Do I see those as the only reasons? No. Can I tailor them to suit my agenda? Yes.

 

youre an idiot. who ****in cares how many times he was knocked down? you act like he lost those fights. He didnt. Get your head out of your ass, fanboy ******.

 

That's because you are a bias moron with the IQ of a turnip. atsch

Read your own thread. Nobody agrees with your initial point.