What I am saying is that NO Brad Vocale did not protect Hoppa by giving him an 8 count, he gave him an 8 count because he fell on the ropes after being hit. Brad Vocale is one of OZ best please don't discredit him an implying wrong doings. In the Heavyweight division you are one punch away from disaster. Hoppa is the Heavyweight Champ of Australia 2yrs after turning pro. We should respect what he has done. The transition was hard but he stuck at it and look at the results. There is still away to go but on his mantle piece there is the hardware that few have. He has been bagged hard by many on this forum and everyone is entitled to their say but he has achieved more than most of the baggers could ever imagine. Dino