Horn PFP Number 2

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  1. smallsteps

    smallsteps Member Full Member

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    Will Horn be ranked pound for pound number 2 if he KO's Crawford?
     
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  2. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Without a doubt.
     
  3. Cafe

    Cafe Sitzpinkler Full Member

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    I mean you could argue fro p4p #1 , wouldn't that be a sight. Jeff Horn p4p #1 boxer in the world.
     
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  4. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    That's not how it works, much as that's how most people think it works. You don't automatically get everything the guy you beat had, because lesser boxers beat greater boxers all of the time, and circumstances vary. Guys climb slowly up to p4p supremacy by beating about a dozen good to great guys. Then they have an off night and lose to some scrub, but the scrub didn't beat those other dozen guys. He just beat one guy. In reality the two boxers records should look like 12-1 and 1-0, but people act like the new guy is suddenly 13-0. It doesn't even matter if the fallen legend is old, or injured, or what.

    The way people do these p4p lists are ridiculous. People kept Mayweather as p4p#1 for well after he wasn't just because he hadn't lost. I say, if you don't fight your mandatories, you get removed from the rankings, because anyone can go undefeated forever if they just cherry pick their opponents. You don't just need to fight your way to the top. You need to be constantly proving that you still belong there, renewing your credentials. I had Donaire, Rigondeaux, Ward, and Gonzalez all passing Floyd in my p4p rankings.
     
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  5. ElCyclon

    ElCyclon Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It would at least prove the Pac win was not a fluke. And what a story that would make.
     
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  6. khaosai galaxi

    khaosai galaxi Superbad Full Member

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    Maybe not number 2. But I would not complain about a top 10 inclusion.
     
  7. WhataRock

    WhataRock Loyal Member Full Member

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    What a time to be alive.
     
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  8. Infern0121

    Infern0121 Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    The Pac fight will remain a robbery regardless of anything that happens
     
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  9. junkhead

    junkhead My dogs watch me post Full Member

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    Tbh I’d definitely see him in top five with wins over pac n crawdaddy, but to note I feel he has a better chance vs Crawford than he does vs the other welterweights surprisingly, due to that size advantage.

    Side note - I’d love to see Horn vs Porter, that would be the most rugged n wild fight, two gun slingers who throw emselves forward
     
  10. mirkofilipovic

    mirkofilipovic ESB Management Full Member

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    Nobody will dethrone Golovkin from pound for pound numero uno.
     
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  11. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    Crawford is not P4P # anything until he fights someone. Horn is there to lose the fight, no win, he is supposed to lose! I would say early knockout for Crawford, can't see Horn lasting long, and even if he were to have a miracle and win the fight, the judges will not give him the decision, he has everything against him including Uncle Bob who gave have an undeserved decision against Pac who beat the crap out of him........................look what they did to Teddy Atlas for telling the truth about boxing! Boxing is corrupt!
     
  12. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    So.... which match do you think would do MILLIONS? Crawford-Horn or Crawford-Pacquiao? Obvious answer is obvious. So therefore why would Bob rob himself of potential MILLIONS by robbing Pac? He wouldn't.... Horn won, because Horn won, get over it.
     
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  13. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    And I don't want to hear any conspiracy theories about... "What if Pac beat Crawford and Pac retires? Uh oh, there goes a potential cash cow!" Coming back from a loss to an ATG is relatively easy... but what if Horn beats Crawford? Will fans be willing to forgive that?
     
  14. Dfaulds

    Dfaulds Well-Known Member Full Member

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    No chance... His claim to fame would be boiling down to 147 to beat two guys from much lower weight classes with one of them being well passed his prime.

    Would have him top 20.
     
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  15. FastSmith7

    FastSmith7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Never in a thousand years, Crawford is just a bully, now he's meeting men his size or bigger than him, he never beat anyone in p4p top 10 so if Horn beats him he's be somewhere around 10-15