How accurate ws Muhamad Ali?

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  1. Dempsey1238

    Dempsey1238 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He was wrong on Liston, he predicted 8 rounds I belive.
     
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  2. Dempsey1238

    Dempsey1238 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Goggle was wrong, the footage CLEARY says Liston.
     
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  3. Boxinglad123

    Boxinglad123 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Predicted cooper in 5 the first time. There is footage of his saying foreman wouldn't be so tough in seven rounds, stopped him in the 8th
     
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  4. The Kurgan

    The Kurgan Boxing Junkie banned

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    He gave them to Chris Finnegan, I heard, who had had to retire from boxing due to an eye injury.
     
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  5. groove

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    liston quit that's why he was wrong on round 8 :patsch can't really blame ali for that one lol.
     
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  6. Dempsey1238

    Dempsey1238 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Dong Jones was other one Ali didnt get right.

    I belive Ali though he get Jones out of there in 7. Or was it 5? Either way, Jones went the full ten rounds.
     
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  7. MMJoe

    MMJoe Boxing Addict Full Member

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    From pro debut Oct. 29, 1960 to October, 1962 (after fighting Alejandro Lavorante and before fighting Archie Moore) Ali was 15-0 with 12 KO's.
    So now that you got that wrong, I'm not sure of the accuracy of the rest of your statement. :patsch
     
    MMJoe, Aug 20, 2010
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  8. Dynamite

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    the info came out of my Muhammad Ali Greatest Of All Time book so i consider that more reliable than most info.
     
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  9. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    :lol::lol::lol:
    :rofl:rofl:rofl appreciate the humor ben
     
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  10. MMJoe

    MMJoe Boxing Addict Full Member

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    regardless of your blind faith, the information is wrong.
    By the time Muhammad was 8-0 he only had 5 KO's. Two back-to-back 10 round decisions to Duke Sadedong and Alonzo Johnson along with a 6 round decision win over Tunny Hunsacker in Ali's pro debut guranteed that 13 KO's in 15 fights is an impossiblility.

    Boxrec
    http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=180&cat=boxer

    Muhammad Ali Wiki
    [ame]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_Ali[/ame]


    About Boxing
    http://boxing.about.com/od/records/a/ali.htm
     
    MMJoe, Aug 20, 2010
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  11. Dynamite

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    my book reads different to boxrec by one fight just shows boxrec dont always get it right. :patsch
     
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  12. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think it was 7 rounds. Muhammad said that Liston did n't come out for that round,just to foil his prediction :lol:
     
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  13. MMJoe

    MMJoe Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That's why I gave two other references and they agree with boxrec. Why didn't you check them out also? :huh
    That book you keep talking about is the only reference in the world that disagrees with every other reference.

    Regardless, let's not continue this pissing match about Alis boxing record, if you want to believe the record that the book is depicting, that is fine with me.
    I came here for some documentation on Ali's predictions. No one has been able to come up with any reliable documentation about Alis predictions after a few days now and the whole internet as a resource. I think it is safe to assume at this point that Ali's predictions were never cataloged, ever. It's just all guesswork at this point.
     
    MMJoe, Aug 21, 2010
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  14. goblin 2

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    heres a VERY interesting story i dont know the name of the fighter so i'll just use the name "Johnson" for the hell of it

    So Ali was gonna fight some guy named Taylor Johnson

    Ali's predictions were actually SO good that during one of his questionaire things,

    one of the reporters asked something like: "Ali your predictions are so perfect that people think your fights are fixed..what do u have to say about that?

    Ali responds: is it a fix if johnson goes down in six??

    come fight night Ali knocks brutally knocks him out with 2min left in the 6th round
     
    goblin 2, Aug 21, 2010
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  15. prime

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    According to Thomas Hauser, Cassius Clay had correctly predicted seven out of the previous eight results before his matchup with Doug Jones.

    Of course, Cooper was stopped in accordance with Clay's prophecy as well.

    Eight so far.

    Once Ali became champion, he himself said predicting was just a way of drawing attention to himself as a challenger, thus somewhat retiring from the prediction game.

    After this, I would say his predictions were his going through the motions and a rather useless psychological tactic.

    If Dunn is included, that would make NINE.
     
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