How Bad is Furys Resume?

Agree mate but I purposely avoided the likes of Tyson, Frazier or even Ali because I know the size argument would be the cookie cutter excuse.
I think the likes of Tyson and Frazier would cause big problems with both style, relentless pressure and ability to get on the inside and letting go of heavy combinations, ducking and weaving to avoid incoming. I don't think Fury or Wilder have faced anything close to that level of aggression, both would crap their pants...

 

I still say Joshua's resume is better, he's fought far more ranked fighters than Fury.
You might not have said Fury was the GOAT but many clowns on here did, my comparison with Lewis was me demonstrating what a great resume looks like.

 

What's your thoughts on a peak Lewis Vs a peak Fury?. If peak Fury 'moments' were say the Klitschko bout and then sometime in the 3 Wilder fights?.

Just curious.

 

Bad and I've been shouting it from the mountaintops for years.

Klitschko was mentally if not physically shot, and let himself by psyched out and intimated by Fury into fighting him like a coward. That prancing and pot shotting performance wouldn't have gotten the job done versus a closer-to-prime, motivated, killer-instinct-retaining version of Wlad (basically any version that still had Steward around).

People like to point to Klitschko still putting on a good/brave performance after that against Joshua - but conveniently omit that it was in response to all the flack Wlad took for the Fury loss, and his desperate attempt to save a bit of face and redeem his legacy. If he fought like that against Fury, he probably would have won...and even that version of Wlad is obviously degenerated quite a bit from his peak through most of his reign, which is why Joshua was able to beat him.

Wilder is a big dosser with power who enjoyed a lengthy WBC reign because of a combination of careful maneuvering/politicking and the HW division being almost unprecedentedly weak.

Take away the pair of them and it's a complete joke of a résume for a lineal champ.

 

I wasn't actually thinking of the BIG names from previous eras, Exo. That goes without question, mate.

More the opponents that Lewis faced in his career. Not including your Holyfields and Mike Tyson's that were past prime. As was Lewis himself I guess.

I'm sure many of Lewis's opponents could have tested Tyson Fury. And if he wasn't on form and in tune, then they give him big problems.

 

I've always thought the Klitschko from the AJ fight was a far more determined fighter from the Fury fight, hands down.

If anything, I thought it was some of the gamest I've seen of Klitchscho. AJ was fortunate to a degree to win in that fight.

 

Joshua definitely has a better resume and I don't hold losses as much against a fighter who fights the best but comes up short. That is better than knocking over a bunch of tomato cans.

 

Yeah that was my original point with my reply to another poster, a game mentally stable Golota, Ruddock, Mercer, Prime Briggs would all be a handful against the current lot.

 

Klitschko always fought like that post-Brewster, the difference being that most of his opponents were blown-up cruisers, some of which were sub-6'. He had home, A-side and champion advantage and still lost 10-2 on your scorecard, with championship debut Fury setting an all-time defensive record. Wlad was able to hit Joshua with more than twice the regularity 17 months later because Joshua is the guy who got KO'd by Ruiz in 2019. Fury was "too long, too fast, too agile, too fit" by Wlad's admission.

“There’s one kid in America that no one speaks of and that’s Deontay Wilder. He was on the Olympic team, big kid, and I have had the fortune of training with him. He is a big kid, he’s bigger than Wladimir too. But he’s got good speed and power and I think the best talent is still going to be Tyson (Fury) and Deontay Wilder.” - Emanuel Steward, 2012

"almost unprecedentedly weak"

Typical sour grapes baloney which is said about nearly every era at the time.

 

Completely agree, looked in better shape and had a clear game plan, I've said for years that the AJ version of Vlad beats the version that fought Fury. They look like two different men, Vlad had issues outside of the ring with relationship issues as well before the Fury fight.
Fury also ducked the rematch and was busted for PED's....

 

Joshua at least pulled a loss back, I just think he'd lost his confidence, despite that still had the minerals to fight Usyk twice. Wilder and Fury only fought each other because each thought the other was a gimme fight. That tells me everything I need to know.

 

Very bad - and I’ve explained this countless times before.

Fury’s best wins are:

39 yo gunshy Wlad - in Wlads fight before Fury he was gunshy against Jennings. Wlad also chinny, overhyped clinching card stacker

Right hand Wilder - padded record, many refs would have stopped the fight when he was getting pinged around the ring by ancient Ortiz. Skinny legged dosser who Tyson outweighed by 20-30lbs.

 

mma fighters have a lot of losses because the sport involves much more luck. choking is a ridiculous thing to allow in a sport and i would imagine has led to a lot of street fight deaths that otherwise wouldn't have happened. anyone can get lucky and get a choke hold locked in once in awhile.

 

Agreed, I'd even throw in the determined Bruno from the Lewis fight. Early doors he'd give Fury some problems, his size and weight was huge in that fight, not to mention Bruno had a very long reach for his size. Give Frank a fighter who's not a swarming up close type, and one who fights at a distance for the most part and Bruno could shine and be very competitive with this type of fighter. Not saying he wins, but he's defo in the game

Again, I fully agree, Exo. I even thought this straight after Klitschkos loss to Fury at the time.

Had Fury fought the version of Klitchscho that AJ fought, then it's a completely different fight imo.

Or/and, had Fury fought Klitchscho, say two years earlier, then again, it would have been a very different fight.

It was a pee poor Klitchscho having a very bad night when he fought Fury.

 

This is a perfect summation , i agree with every word