How Bad is Furys Resume?

Can you imagine what Ruddock's "Smash" would do to Dillian Whyte ?

Everyone says this Heavyweight era is "amazing" but is it really ?

I don't want to sound like a broken record but most of the top Heavyweights now are in their late 30s or early 40s, barely any of them have many wins over top 10 opposition. Especially when you compare them to some of the notable Heavyweights of the past like Lewis, M.Tyson, Holmes, who just by themselves how many more wins over ranked opponents then the entire top 10 Heavyweights now.

There's a thread in classic forum atm in regards to Tyson's incredible run in 1986, he had 13 fights in a 1 year period including having 3 fights that went the 10 round distance 2 of them being within a 3 week period.

Just looking at stats like that it puts the Heavyweights of today to shame in all honesty.

 

Exactly it's always about context, it's about who has fought who and how deep an era is.
It's why the 70's and 90's are considered the best at heavy, not one person was unbeaten because if there's real depth and everyone fights each other defeat is absolutely inevitable.
The level of competition raises everyone's game and this is mirrored in life. It's why some of the top heavies today never really evolved their style, Fury did it once for the second Wilder fight and AJ became cautious that's about it. Usyk has the skills for me but needs the Fury fight to demonstrate it. I'm not confident in Fury following through as his myth is based on being unbeaten, without that there's little to no substance in his resume.

 

Good afternoon Guys , this debate has been great , i like the fact we can have serious contesting debate without it turning into a slanging match , i salute you all .

I recognise Fury has a following and many hate to hear his claims to greatness torn down.
I think he is a great fighter , but not a GREAT fighter , his resume is weak to be claiming greatness .
I for one cannot work out WHY people rate him so highly when none of his claims of greatness are backed up or fortified by his achievements .
I will go one record to say i honestly believe he will retire , before facing Usyk AJ or anyone

 

Ducking has reached horrendous levels in the current era. There are plenty of talented heavyweights who are essentially throwing away their primes due to not fighting other top guys. Guys like Dychko and Bakole are essentially wasting their best years due to poor management and avoidance by their contemporaries.

Fighters are also wasting too much time in the amateurs and waiting too long to turn pro.

 

His resume ?
Paper. Thin.

 

When Fury beats Usyk people are going to have a meltdown again

Fury cannot be beaten by a man born of their mother

 

Only way Fury beats Usyk is if they release Fight Night Champions for the PS5. Only place this fight is actually happening. And depending on how realistic the game is he might not beat him there either.

Fury will fight Charr early next year on the undercard of Jake Paul and Carl Froch or some retired NHL enforcer. You heard it here first folks

 

https://www.boxingforum24.com/threa...best-resume-of-any-active-heavyweight.712315/
A good number of posters say that Fury's resume is better than Anthony Joshua's. If that's true, then that's the best resume right now.

 

There's several angles to this, I think...

A big part of it centers around Wilder's hypejob mythical status - the overwhelming majority of the guys that are still super invested in believing Wilder was actually a first rate fighter (despite the horribly thin resume) have to explain away how easily Fury obliterated him without diminishing his standing (above Joshua and even Usyk, as the myth goes) and the only way to achieve it is to hype Fury into an absolute freak of nature and comfortable ATG head-to-head nightmare for absolutely everyone - that way Wilder can be miles off Fury and yet still #2 in the division.

Another part is a hatred of Joshua - an inability to admit his place in the division as the boring character with the strong resume that's hard to like but still deserves respect...
By hyping Fury above him (for having beaten someone who repeatedly ducked him ) they can brush him aside as irrelevant - and to some extent he is now, but then most of the division is when it comes to inactivity and lack of decent (and regular) fights getting made.

 

It’s not just who Wilder did fight, it’s also the way he beat them. By brutal knockout near killing them.

I also don’t think Fury obliterated Wilder easy as you claim. Fury was dropped several times. The first fight Fury nearly got knocked out himself. And it was a draw. I did think Fury won a UD but it was ruled a draw, no big deal.

 

You can't really separate the two that easily... If they're easy to hit, have average to poor chins or just lack the power themselves to make you think twice about committing - it's very different from if you've got someone in front of you who's actually any good.

Okay, I'll explain why I put it that way...

Fury won the third (and arguably first, but a draw will do for sake of argument) in nowhere near peak physical condition - he was rusty in #1, fat and slow in #3 and still looked a totally different level.

Then you see the massive gulf in ability between the two fighters when they're both fully fit and confident (in the second fight) and it's a completely one sided blowout.

 

Khan fans are king
When it comes to meltdowns
Most khan fans are fury fans

 

Yeah but the other fighters haven’t been knocking out their weaker opposition the same way Wilder has. Not that fast and not that brutal. They might have done it here and there but not consistently like Wilder has.

The second Wilder fight was Tyson Fury at his very best. But the other two fights still count for something.

Looking at the trilogy as a whole: It was a war.

 

Martin Rogan would have held his own in any era. To quote Audely Harrison. "The Man was hard as nails."

 

I'm not sure I'd say fast is a consistent theme, but his KO% is certainly high... I still don't value it that much when the level of opposition has been so poor - especially when he's had much better fighters wanting to fight him and even practically begging (in Whytes case) and he's swerved the lot.

The second was Fury at his best since his return, definitely... Better than his Ped fuelled days before his years out is debatable.

The other fights still count for "something" as you put it, yes... But IMHO the fact that Wilder still couldn't win either of them and looked the lesser fighter in both cases despite Fury being in awful condition says a lot about just how wide the chasm between the two is.

The question is whether that's because Fury is super special or because Wilder's hype was ridiculously OTT... It'll be between the two, but much much closer to the latter IMHO.