How Bad is Furys Resume?

Usyk is an elite boxer. Even obese manlet Ruiz has far more boxing experience and a "resume" than Ngannou

Fury got boxed in by a slow robotic immigrant from mma. Gtfo

This era is trash, and nothing you say will undo Fury's failures

 

You can't deny what I've said, hence you don't.

Hopefully we'll see how Fury does against elite boxer P4P ATG Usyk.

 

Because aj losing to Usyk and Ruiz didn't do irreparable damage to boxings name despite how bad the loses were. There is nothing to deny. Fury struggled if not outright lost to a fkin mma immigrant on his first fight.

False equivalence

 

You're being melodramatic. UFC's name wasn't "permanently damaged" when a kickboxer strolled in and whooped their P4P No.2. If it wasn't Fury it would have been Joshua or Wilder and there's a great chance they'd have got KO'd.

 

Kick Boxers focus on leg kicks too even if they don't grapple which can also be learned quicker than boxing. There isn't that much difference from kick boxing and mma compared to boxing and mma, and it's still a more horrific loss because Fury is supposed to be tbe according to the fans, (and we have an example)

Them getting "ko'd" is pure hypothetical. Wanna know my hypothetical ? Ngannou gets his face boxed off by virtually any top 10 not named Fury. He is not good. Results are what matter. That's why resume determines ranking more than h2h nonesense

 

"Wanna know my hypothetical ? Ngannou gets his face boxed off by virtually any top 10 not named Fury."

I'd love to see Joshua, Wilder or Joyce. Chisora as a warm up.

 

Fixed it for you

 

Ngannou is a world champion mma fighter. #1 hw ufc fighter.

Andy Ruiz like most boxers have a bunch of cans on their records.

I did a deduction of his record and I removed all the bums. Andy is really 19-2 boxer.

Mma fighters like Francis fight better competition from the jump. That is why in Ufc we have ufc champions with 7-9 losses on their record .

Francis was 10-1 and he already beaten 6 solid fighters and 3 mma vets with a ton of experience.

Alistair Overeem had 4x the experience when Francis beat him and he was a world champion k1 kickboxer.

Mma fighters get exposed to better talent, and they don't have nearly as much record bias, they don't have to pad their record to sell the public that they are better than they actually are.

 

It doesn't matter in this case, Ruiz is still a better pure boxer. Fury fought like crap. Ngannou was slow, telegraphed, cement feet and had a low workrate. Only thing was his reach. Fury losing says more about him than Ngannou

 

Not good but this is a pretty weak era. Fury did beat the best of the prior era, although Klitschko was faded (not shot).

The only great fighter at HW is Usyk. You have someone who will probably make it into the HOF in AJ. Fury beats those two guys and maybe we can start talking about his ranking in the HW best H2H. I don't think he gets past either guy at this point. And yes, that includes AJ.

 

Andy Ruiz is the mma equivalent of Tai Tuvasa. A top contender but never would be a champion if he fought the real champion. His belt was wbo not wbc, he would have lost to this version of Fury as well , he nearly lost to Chris Arriola . The fact Aj loss to him also puts Francis with in reach to win a world championship. Usyk also going to a split with Aj who went 1-1 with Andy makes this mean that all these superstar hw are not wide in skill level to ngannou either.

 

This is ridiculous you cannot judge skill level by pure boxrec. Even Rahman knocked Lewis out. Ali dropped by a light heavyweight

Ruiz is a boxer with far greater experience and speed. He would lose to Fury due to massive height and reach difference, but he would slap around Ngannou

Ngannou looked like crap. Fury just looked even worse. Probably because Fury fights to the level of his opposition sometimes (Wallin). You're on a high because Fury really embarrassed himself in there, but Ngannou is not good. He loses to every other top 10, and in a mismatch fashion.

Time will prove me correct.

 

Andy isn't discipline, he's been fat throughout his career. Ngannou has always looked like African Conan , he's not munching on sneakers bar daily.

He is also the ultimate stoic boxer. He keeps a strong composure, never complains even after a loss, he's not out here making excuses.

Francis' mindset, coupled with the fact that he's a good learner, if he did that to Fury in his debut, his ceiling for improvement hasn't capped yet. Wait until he mixes it with better trainers, higher class of sparring partners, and has more experience now in a boxing ring. You can point to all his flaws, but that is going to be address by his coaches and will tighten up his gaps, he's only one and a half year away from being the #1 hw boxer.

 

That's just discipline. Ngannou is not near as skilled, not as fast, and even worse defense and thats something Ruiz is horrific at. He has size and power over Ruiz. Nothing else from a technical perspective. He wouldn't even beat Ajagba. Fury fought like crap. You won't want to admit it you can't even see it. Ngannou is terrible

You're wanking of Ngannou really isn't going to age well. But don't say I didn't warn you. I'll bump the thread in due time