How Bad is Quitting a Fight? Duran, Vitali, Ortiz all did it

ive ran 10 marathons (26.2 miles)

and 16 half marathons (13.1 miles)

is this the same as going 12 rounds getting punched in the face? NO, not even close

but theres a point in the race where your body says "**** it, i'm done". and you either walk the rest of the way or walk/run, or quit. ive seen people quit with 1 mile left to go. thats because they wanted to quit 4 miles before that and they gutted it out as far as they could. when you are done, youre done. call someone who ran ONLY 25 miles a quitter because he didnt cross the finish line. ive seen at least an average of 1 person die on marathon length races because they dont train right, think they can just wing it....
point is, theres a time in a fight where a fighter feels like he cant even throw another punch or even lift his arms up to block.... but see, he is a quitter just like a rahman type quit job with a tiny baby cut in the 3rd round , according to 100%of all trolls on this board who have no clue

 

You're argument is one big contradiction. You state that I don't know how much pain Vitali was in, and that other fighters were in similar pain. But how do you know how much pain Vitali was in? Just because you dislike the guy (I don't know why, he isn't cocky and never says anything stupid) doesn't mean that he was in less pain. I saw the guy fight with a shredded face, I think their is validity that he was in severe pain along with his surgery after the fight.

Yes, these guys make BIG money. But why should their entire lives go down the drain because of 1 fight? If the pain is way too much then just understand that your body can't be stressed to that point. Live to fight another day, and Vitali did that. It looks like Vitali made the right decision there, most people agree with that statement and unless it's by people like you I don't see any questioning about him quitting because of that injury.

There is a level in which boxers should suck it up, but their isn't a level when you risk your body forever. I think that's the line, and guys like Vitali and Duran drew those lines and now those guys are forever recorded in boxing history for their wins and not their injuries.

 

I was only refering to the people who use real life examples as a way to justify fighters quitting. Like 'Oh COULD YOU STAND UP TO THE PAIN', well you are not a champion boxer, so it's two totally different situations.

In regards to what you said, I agree. I have nothing against Vitaly, I was just emotionally abused by his rabid fans during 2009, and the lingering after effects is still felt today.

 

I'm not sure who the bigger quitter is:

Erik 'El Mexibum' Morales - Quit on his ass when his glass heart had been shattered all over the ring by ATG pacman

'Average' Joe Frazier - Quit on his stool to pillow-fisted Ali with one round to go.

Both fighters have no heart. None!

 

It's funny, the fighters that don't quit and end up dead, are seen as courageous heroes and we all get to throw up those "R.I.P" stamps after we hear the news and discuss him usually in highlight while glancing on the negative side of boxing just a bit. And then we move on and forget about him. But his family doesn't.

Fighters tend to go on until the very end. Or at least we expect them too. The Ref, The Corner, the Doctor, and whoever else can stop the fight but when they fail, and when the fighter still has reasonable judgment...when he decides to stop the fight....he is a quitter.

I think it depends on the circumstances.

 

Actually Frazier didn't quit on his stool. The fight was stopped by his corner. Something Frazier did not approve of.

 

Fighters are judged by their peers and what they have done in similar situations. They set the bar.

When you see another fighter with the same or worse injury continue to go on and the other does not...that's when the critique starts.

 

****** troll

ban this ***** someone

 

Ortiz quite because he was getting the **** punched out of him. He at least had the below to show for his troubles in a war which showed multiple knockdowns from both guys:

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Whereas Alexander, after shitty slapfest, did the following because he couldn't handle a couple of paper cuts. Or, some would argue it was a tactical quit. The momentum was in Bradley's favour and before the scorecards could tally up in his name, they thought why not stop the fight now on cuts for the slight chance that the judges would have had him [Alexander] up.

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That's why his was more embarrassing. Bradley being a better fighter than Maidana, is irrelevant.

 

tyson quit in holyfield 2 basically. headbutts or not the bite was gonna get him out of the fight

 

^ This

How bad is quitting well not nearly as bad as biting someone's ear off !

 

... after committing one of the most blatant heabutts in the history of boxing.

 

Ortiz quitting against Maidana is one of the worst things I've ever seen:

1. He was winning the fight.
2. He knocked Maidana down several times.
3. If he had just listened to his corner, he would've won easily.

I don't think anyone has ever quit under those circumstances. It still boggles my mind. Usually fighters quit because they are losing or outmatched. Ortiz was neither. He simply quit because his opponent came to fight. That's ****ing horrible man.

 

I have no problems with a fighter quitting on a severe injury. Health should come fight before entertainment.

 

they dont make em like gatti or corrales anymore....