How Bad Is The Ngannou fight for Furys legacy

Frankly, it ends any suggestion that Fury is an elite HW champion. It’s a legacy killer.

 

“A legacy KILLER”??? No.

Does it look bad on Fury? Absolutely. No getting around that! But the guy had a bad night! Against at the time… basically the UFC Heavyweight Champion who was always known for having a granite chin and pretty serious power. It’s not like Fury went in there with some UFC reject that got whooped enough times in MMA so he switched sports because he had no other option anymore. I don’t like ngannou at all but he’s no joke. As far as punching power he’s top 10 in the world in combat sports. And clipped Fury pretty good and dropped him. **** happens.

But destroying a whole legacy in one bad fight in which he got up and won the fight albeit a controversial win but still got the W nonetheless.

I mean… didn’t “tHe grEATesT oF aLL tiMEs!!” get smacked up fairly good in a fight against Lyle Alzado once in a competitive match?? lol Did that destroy his legacy??

 

@Dynamicpuncher I couldn't be bothered to read your essays. I'm a fan of Marquez myself. I was just showing an example of how you can troll and bull**** exaggerate and nitpick about any fighter. All fighters have had off nights.

You're laughably claiming nonsense things like how getting dropped by Wilder is a bad thing to be noted. Wilder is one of the biggest punchers and most dangerous HWs in history!. That Fury got off the floor showing massive heart and toughness to win those fights is a huge CREDIT to Fury!!

 

I think the issue is not that he had a bad night - most fighters do. It's that he did badly in a novelty fight that he chose to participate in.
Ali and Mayweather also had novelty fights. But to be fair both did it at the end of their careers when they had already built their legacies. The problem with Fury is that he did it when there were still plenty of credible threats and challengers around. He was, let's remember at the time, calling himself the greatest fighter of his generation... without actually getting in the ring to prove it against top ranked fighters - many of whom were calling for the opportunity. Usyk, for example, had been chasing him for years. And it also came fresh off the back of the unnecessary third Chisora fight. So yes he performed badly vs Ngannou - but it's taking that fight in the first place - as well as the timing of it - which causes him the most reputational damage IMO.

 

To muddy the waters even more. So the lineal title is the only thing that can point out the real champion. Usyk is the champion. Dubois isn't.

 

Well, Sullivan, Jess Willard and Jack Dempsey were out of action for longer periods of time and they were still considered champions after coming back. There is no precedence for such a long layoffs like Lennox', so he definitely would have a claim, but would he be lineal? The public would decide. Since it's been over 20 years and the new lineage was clearly established and strengthen with the undisputed title, most likely not.

 

1) Ngannou is a novice. AJ showed him up for what he is which makes it worse.

2) Fury’s body of work overall is very average. He should never be mentioned in the same sentence as Ali. Ever. Also, Ali had that exhibition in 1979. Ali had beaten all-comers by then and was well in decline. It’s not a valid comparison by any measure.

3) Lyle Alzado had his ears boxed off against Ali. Ali was not smacked up “fairly good” at all. That’s a fabrication. You should be embarrassed trying that one on. They weren’t even trying to hurt each other.

Legacy - well tell me, what is Fury’s legacy? A trilogy against an overhyped can crusher, losing clearly twice against a blown up cruiserweight, a few cash grabs against a journeyman/gatekeeper and a win over a completely washed Wlad. He has no legacy. He’s a middling heavyweight champion who conned plenty into believing he is better than he is. And the shambles against a novice MMA guy showed him up as exactly that.

 

@CooperKupp

 

Dude, read more closely before trying to be a logician. I literally cited the other major milestones in Fury's career, and I assumed you were aware enough of Usyk's career achievements that you'd at least understand why someone might deem him an ATG (besides, Usyk's legacy isn't the core subject here). I won't spell them out for you though, as you seem to have very selective reading.

Also disagree on Fury being past his best hurting Usyk's legacy as Usyk was past prime as well, and Fury was an incumbent undefeated world champion. He hardly dragged him from out of the grave.

 

Of course you couldn't be bothered because you had no answer to it that's plainly obvious because everything i stated was a fact about Marquez's opponents in which you dishonestly tried to troll and being extremely negative trying to compare it to Fury and got found out.

Wilder is a big puncher yes but very limited skill wise with a very thin resume himself. I'm not saying Fury didn't show heart i'm saying his H2H ability has always been overrated, he struggled too much vs Wilder overall and he's had too many poor performances vs mediocre opposition.

But i don't even think Fury should've been fighting Wilder 3 times anyway once Fury beat him the 2nd time that should've been the end of it.

 

Its the opposite. Lineal is the most prestigious honor in the sport. Undisputed is arbitrary and doesn't even include the interim belts. Its a way for the alphabet bodies to get everyone to acknowledge how amazing and important they all are.

 

Fury is a slob who fights to the level of his opponent. It hurts his resume, but he just about dragged is reputation back by having very close fights with Usyk.