How Bad Is The Ngannou fight for Furys legacy

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  1. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Imagine if Joe Parker beat Rico Verhoeven or something like that, it'd be ****ing nuts if anyone cared about kickboxing.
     
    George Crowcroft, Jun 19, 2025 at 10:56 AM
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  2. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Like I said, Roy's best ever win is a guy whose 0 had already been unofficially harvested before Roy beat him by a club fighter named Dave Tiberi

    And his other best win B-Hop was not only lucky to escape with a draw vs a club fighter from Ecuador but he's lucky both the KDS he suffered occurred right near the end of the round because he may well have been KO'd by that South American club fighter

    How much does Roy's PED abuse affect his legacy? The RoJos gonna sweep that one under the carpet

    Granted, Belly's a PED cheat too
     
    Serge, Jun 19, 2025 at 10:59 AM
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  3. fencik45

    fencik45 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Not much worse than the rest of his **** resume.
     
    fencik45, Jun 19, 2025 at 11:34 AM
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  4. BCS8

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    Fury thought he could roll out of bed and beat Ngannou, and Ngannou just about uppercutted him back into bed for his presumption. Fury has a knack for looking like flaming dogshyte against guys he could beat without breaking a sweat at his best. The Ngannou fight is an embarrassment.
     
    BCS8, Jun 19, 2025 at 12:01 PM
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  5. AdamT

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  6. kirk

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    Horrible.

    Sets his legacy two or three tiers below where it should be, imo.
     
    kirk, Jun 19, 2025 at 2:46 PM
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  7. Joeywill

    Joeywill Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It was until George Foreman ruined it
     
    Joeywill, Jun 19, 2025 at 6:59 PM
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  8. Cafe

    Cafe Sitzpinkler Full Member

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    It affects it but he already has had a lot of brow-raisers, so it's not like it downgrades it from something great but more so adds onto his already questionable career.

    In isolation, it's not THAT big of a deal though because I do think it's possible to transition decently well from other combat sports into boxing if some things align - namely you are striking focused fighter, and you go into divisions with smaller talent pools/lesser skill focus.
     
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  9. HistoryZero26

    HistoryZero26 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This isn't true. I've written several very long dissertations on here explaining why Foremans 90s SOS wasn't his fault. Foreman was a faithful custodian of the lineal tradition. He puts a certain 4 someones from recent years to shame.
     
    HistoryZero26, Jun 19, 2025 at 11:43 PM
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  10. Joeywill

    Joeywill Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He didn't fight Bowe or Lewis. Never gave Moorer a rematch. Even vacated the belt to avoid Tucker
     
    Joeywill, Jun 20, 2025 at 8:08 AM
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  11. AdamT

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    As a fan, it's absolutely humiliation
     
    AdamT, Jun 20, 2025 at 8:36 AM
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  12. mrbigshot

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    Fumny enough usyk nearly lost to a fury who had serious trouble with ngannou ... not good for fury,s legacy and not good for usyk,s legacy
     
    mrbigshot, Jun 20, 2025 at 11:39 AM
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  13. MaccaveliMacc

    MaccaveliMacc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Why Foreman tho? There were other champions who held the title not defending it for longer than he did. Foreman at least fought at fought guys who could have been voluntary defences if he still held the WBA and IBF belts.

    The Moorer fight was planned but Michael didn't want to pursue it.
     
    MaccaveliMacc, Jun 20, 2025 at 11:51 AM
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  14. HistoryZero26

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    Bowe didn't fight any of the top guys but Holyfield and Lennox didn't fight Bowe, Moorer or George. 2 top 5 opponents was the going rate for that era. The top guys usually fight more than that but in this era thats par.

    And the HW division was on fire(the bad kind) when Foreman was champ. While I would prefer Foreman fight Tucker then Schulz, Schulz got three title shots in a row. Are we going to blame Foreman for fighting a man for the lineal title who got two more title shots in a row? I think not.
     
    HistoryZero26, Jun 20, 2025 at 11:53 AM
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  15. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Imo he just had a bad night. At least he didn't lose I guess.
     
    Kiwi Casual, Jun 20, 2025 at 1:45 PM
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