How big a fight is Fury v Usyk st HW?

For what it is worth I don't see him being around long. He has averaged one a year in the last four years, and will be 36 next month. I love the guy, but realistically, he is near the end.

He will probably only do the fight against Fury and a rematch.

On the way outside, he has talked about retuning to cruiser, and a fight with Canelo. I could see him doing his two with Fury, picking up a cruiserweight belt and having the big-money swan song against Canelo, but more likely he is done after Fury.

 

If Usyk was so skilled he'd have better dealt with every heavyweight he fought and would have toyed with Bellew but bellew won rounds. If he was so good he wouldn't have had such a close fight with Briedies.

 

It is al least the potentially biggest fight in years. We shall see if it happens. Boxing badly needs it.

 

Asia?

 

Holyfield predicted that Tyson would win.

 

Check out how many punches Usyk landed in cruiser fights compared to Fury and compared to how many he lands at heavyweight, AJ did far better v Usyk than he should have because Usyk was scared of letting his hands go when he got into good positions, he`s on another planet to J and should have pitched a shut out, he`s just too small.

 

But Usyk is a champion at heavyweight, it is not necessary to be a steroid using fighter that has blown up to 330 lbs to fight Tyson Fury, no one wants to see another Deontay Wilder match against Fury, trilogies are boring, Wilder has already had his three chances, 3 strikes and you are out. Wilder is holding up progress, he is becoming tiresome. The poor heavyweight contenders will be using walkers, be in a nursing home before they get a chance at Fury because of that bad penny Wilder who will not go away. Weight is not everything, it is skill and toughness which matters. Tisk, Tisk.

 

Agreed. Many fighters have used this tactic, finding a way for that fighter to be farther and farther from their peak, then fight that opponent. A very shrewd move, Yank Durham not wanting Joe Frazier to fight champion Muhammad Ali in 1967 when Ali was at his peak, to wait for Ali to be banned, so that when Ali returned from a 43 month ban in 1970, Ali would lack stamina, timing, reflexes, and non stop footwork. Floyd Mayweather kept Manny Paquaio waiting until Manny's peak had passed to get into the ring without his advantages.

 

Massive

 

I don't know about the highlighted bit but otherwise, I agree. I never understood the obsession with past eras and fights to the extent that even just suggesting that a fight or a fighter could be just as exciting today as the ones from the seventies would grant you becoming a victim of some angry digital gang-up by members of the online boxing fan community.

Why is it blasphemy to say that Usyk is already the greatest CW ever and that he could surpass Holyfield in the HW division too? Why or how is it upsetting to say that if he scores wins against Fury, Wilder and Joyce (he is known to have expressed interest in fighting the latter two), then he could be considered in the top 10 HWs of all time? Sure, he has a lot of work to do as an HW still. But why is even entertaining the possibility of him actually doing this work considered blasphemous?

 

Deontay Wilder already had three chances, Joe Joyce or Usyk would be good quality challengers. When a trilogy with the same fighter starts there is no end to it. I would like to see Tyson Fury clean out the division. Trilogies hold up deserving challengers.

 

Usyk's style is tailor-made against bigger guys. There's a reason despite all the talk, Fury ducked him earlier this year, demanding a tune-up with Whyte instead of facing Usyk around April. But he can have a hard time against the likes of Briedis or Beterbiev due to matchup issues. Triangle theories never work, never have, and never will. How fighters fare against each other is never a straightforward affair. If fighter A beats fighter B with ease, and fighter B beats fighter C with ease, that absolutely doesn't mean fighter A would destroy fighter C in two rounds.

Ali lost in tough fights against Fraizer and Norton. Foreman knocked them both out early with ease - then Ali knocked Foreman out in eight. Lewis knocked Bruno out, McCall knocked Lewis out, and Bruno comfortably outpointed McCall. Holyfield outpointed Foreman, Moorer outpointed Holyfield, and Foreman knocked Moorer out. The history of the HW division is full of such dynamics. Usyk had an easier time against Joshua than he had against Chisora - and since Usyk is a nightmare matchup for tall, heavy guys, it's more than likely that he will give Fury the toughest fight of his life by far.

Styles make fights - still the biggest truth about boxing.

 

It will be very hard for Usyk to hit Fury`s head, I wasn`t impressed with Wilder or him in their trilogy though.

 

The time zones are problematic but at some point some money from China, Korea or Japan is going to latch onto boxing. Mike Tyson fought pro-fights in Japan and a big event fight makes more sense from a global marketing point of view, than accumulating grass-roots minor fights. Unfortunately, Covid has counted Asia out of any big events for the near term, China especially.