how big a shock is the khan defeat...?

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  1. Luscious Lopez

    Luscious Lopez Active Member Full Member

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    with hindsight,perhaps not as monumental as some would have you believe.i think khan and his team committed the cardinal sin,in doing what they said they would not,and that was to look past their opponent,with one eye on mayweather.peterson was always going to be one tough hombre,and to give him 'home' advantage was always a questionable decision as well,imo.khan now needs to regroup,get peterson back in the ring and beat him convincingly before silly talk of 'super fights.'this i'm sure he will do,but it's put him off course by another six months,a la prescott,and possibly cost him his pension fight against pbf.
     
  2. icemax

    icemax Indian Red Full Member

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    Taking the fight in DC was insane and as a volutary defence even more so. The defeat isn't shocking in any way at all....every punch Khan takes I'm on the edge of my seat waiting for him to hit the deck. As daft as it is a KD last night might have sparked him into action.
     
  3. miguel2010

    miguel2010 His hands are his weapons Full Member

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    Not very, hes always been fast, but has **** all else to back that up.
     
  4. roe

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    Amir Khan losing is never really that big a shock to me. Stylistically against smaller opponents it's easier for him to use his fast hands and footwork with those hit and run tactics. But whenever a taller fighter is able to get inside and trade with him, Khan will come off second best nearly all the time because his punches just aren't at all methodical. He fires out flurries seemingly without even thinking about it and gets caught far too much.

    Forget the chin talk, Khan's determination and heart to carry on through hard fights is incredible. This was apparent ages ago when he came back against Willie Limond and Michael Gomez. Even against Prescott he tried so hard to get back to his feet.

    But the shock in his defeat this time (and the same with the Prescott fight) is that Lamont Peterson in all fairness isn't that good a fighter. This is the biggest worry for Amir Khan's future.
     
  5. Flea Man

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    Yes, a big shock but not because Amir had the aura of invincibility.

    But Peterson was not supposed to be the one to upset the apple cart. He fought his heart out last night to make it as close and competitive as he could, and with a bit of luck it paid off.
     
  6. hitman_hatton1

    hitman_hatton1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    first thing i did when i woke up was check the bbc sport page.

    wasn't really surprised.

    thought peterson would give him issues.

    bit of home cooking on the scoring and hey presto. :yep
     
  7. DDA365

    DDA365 Gatecrasher Full Member

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    is this the part where all of a sudden everybody knew all along khan would lose?
     
  8. Flea Man

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    No.

     
  9. Luscious Lopez

    Luscious Lopez Active Member Full Member

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    no.in fairness i thought khan would win fairly comfortably,but as has been said in the past,khan always looks great when he's beating up on naturally smaller guys who can't match his speed and firepower.i love his heart and grit,but peterson matched his will and determination and ultimately khan's punches bounced off him with no adverse effect.stepping up to a bigger weight division will surely see khan's power nullified further still...?
     
  10. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Not a surprise, people were criminally underrating Peterson, let's remember he supposedly kicked the crap out of Mayweather in sparring, outboxed Ortiz and stopped a decent contender last fight. He is also a very smart kid who's a student of boxing and it's history and very technically skilled. He knew he couldn't fight his usual fight against Khan so adapted. The Bradley fight probably came too early and he was headbutted silly in that fight - if Bradley kept been warned/fined about his butts the way Amir was then maybe we have a different fight

    I wasn't sure he could quite rise to this level though but his performance last night was amazing. This was Peterson winning, not Khan losing (although obviously he lost). Peterson has rised to be in my top4 favourite active boxers alongside Mayweather, Marquez and Guzman
     
  11. Maximus

    Maximus TKO6 Full Member

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    Not shocking at all. Apart from Maidana (who is still very limited and still had him on ***** street), he's been kept away from live threats since Prescott. He has no ring IQ, he can't handle pressure fighters, has no serious pop in his punches and he sure as **** can't fight on the inside. He also gets buzzed alarmingly easy. Take away that speed and he really is nothing special. As someone mentioned after the fight, timing>speed.
     
  12. ero-sennin

    ero-sennin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Not a shock, but it was surprising. Surprising because like Flea said, it wasn't supposed to be Peterson. It was surprising they took the fight in DC too.

    Khan is still too much of a basic one dimensional fighter at the moment. Roach has made big improvements, like keeping his guard up, a better jab and straight right hand, good body punching and the in and out movement. Of course, the chin has improved too.

    The flaws that exist are an inability to fight off the backfoot, or on the inside, not blocking uppercuts well, straight punches getting through his guard, and flurries that are sometimes wild and lack any power.

    His gameplan is to stay on the outside using jab then to get inside and fire off his fluries once the opponent goes into his shell, then jump back outside as the opponent tries to retaliate. Usually Khan is gonna be bigger than his opponents in terms of height and reach at this weight class, but when a fighter is able to get inside consistently or is taller and has a better reach than him, Khan will have problems. I see him as an athlete more so than a boxer. An athlete that relies on physical advantages and speed too much. If he worked on his flaws and his boxing IQ, he should easily be beating guys like Peterson.
     
  13. ero-sennin

    ero-sennin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah this was impressive. He figured it out early on, and adapted well.
     
  14. glue glove

    glue glove Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Khan can't handle guys in his face. He spent too much time manning up taking shots rather than getting out of the way. You smother him, he ain't got a clue.
     
  15. dftaylor

    dftaylor Writer, fanatic Full Member

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    Khan cannot draw in the US. His fights there have been papered. That's why it was in DC, since Lamont meant they would actually sell some tickets.