how can any mayweather fan say hes not running scared now

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  1. jas

    jas ★ Legends: B-HOP ; PAC ★ Full Member

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    gotta admit, i like this :good
     
  2. Exactabox

    Exactabox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    ty. your a good sport mate.
     
  3. mrjotatp4p

    mrjotatp4p THE ONE Full Member

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    First of all you can't compare a injured Floyd Mayweather who fought Castillo in fight 1. Castillo is a real pressure fighter who didn't have to throw tons of punches at Floyd and he applied smart pressure and didn't just throw everything he had at Floyd. Majority of the time he would get close and feint to throw but hesitate for a sec and as soon as Floyd went to reset he would d it again and when Floyd reacted with movement or threw a jab or something Castillo would then throw at him. It was a close fight but I think Floyd did enough to win. People tend to forget the first half of the fight which Floyd clearly one. Now lets put the Southpaw **** to rest. Floyd has dominated every Southpaw he has faced and probably only lost 4 rounds out of the 6 or so Southpaws he has faced. Second Floyd will not be a sitting duck for Manny to just throw combos on and if you spent time watching Floyd you would know that he uses the Philly Shell only on the inside when he is facing a Southpaw. He always goes with his high guard. The only way for Manny to beat him is at mid range bc at long range Floyd dominates and inside Floyd dominates bc as great as Manny is he is a horrible inside fighter. Do not be surprised that by the 7th round of that fight the commentators will be talking about Floyd vs Sergio Martinez cause Manny will just be in their hoping to land a kill shot bc he will get out boxed and frustrated. Even JMM gave Manny a war and he is not even close to being on Floyd's level.
     
  4. Exactabox

    Exactabox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Sorry I don't see any text on my phone. Well any way I guess if Floyd is currently ducking Kermit Cintron he will never fight Manny. he rather make movies with 50 cent. too bad it would have been fun to see him get KTFO
     
  5. mrjotatp4p

    mrjotatp4p THE ONE Full Member

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    Please tell me what Manny has that Floyd doesn't have? Manny has great hand speed and foot speed. So does Floyd. Who has better foot work? Floyd. Manny has stamina and so does Floyd. You can't say what you want about Floyd but he has heart to win and so does Manny. Now with that being said everything that Manny has can be matched and taking from him. What disarms speed? The jab. Why? The jab will offset a fighter and jack up their rhythm. Floyd has the jab to do that to Manny and Manny doesn't have the jab to do it to Floyd which he needs. Range and angles. Manny does have great angles but in boxing you are taught to take away those angles with footwork. Floyd has the best foot work in the business. JMM was able to take away those angles with his foot work. Damn dude do you know boxing? I can tell you are just a hater. LMAO! Now Manny has developed a pretty good right hand but that **** can be taking away from him as well in several ways. 1st Floyd could sit his left right over the top of Manny's right which will make Manny hold it just were Floyd wants it to be in order to tag Manny with some left hooks. He will turn Manny in to the depend on the left hand only fighter he was before Roach. Man please don't get me started with talking boxing. You might as well talk about some personal bull**** about Floyd with me cause boxing talk is something you don't want to do.
     
  6. Exactabox

    Exactabox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    POWER. HEART.
    FLoyd fights for money. Manny fights for everything and everybody. big difference.
     
  7. mrjotatp4p

    mrjotatp4p THE ONE Full Member

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    See how you responded to me. You said nothing to counter my position. You just said Floyd can make movies with 50 cents and it would have been fun seeing him get KTFO. Those comments sounds just like a casual boxing fan. :bart
     
  8. mrjotatp4p

    mrjotatp4p THE ONE Full Member

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    If you don't think Floyd has heart then you are sadly mistaking. The kid had been in the gym since the age of 2 and its all he knows. Second you fail to realize that power can be zapped. If you knew boxing you would know. See when your power gets zapped it will cause you to make excuses such as; I didn't get to wear the punchers gloves, and then later when you get back home you will say well I was weak from getting my blood drawn the day before the fight or some **** bc you don't understand why your power was zapped in the first place. LMAO!! :bbb
     
  9. Exactabox

    Exactabox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You are talking the same jive that all the welterweights trainers believe before their fighter went into the ring vs Manny.
    Conventional wisdom is gonna do jack for you against a fighter that defies the laws of boxing science. A jab won't stop 2 Manny Pacqiuaos at this weight.

    Floyd's footwork has lost a step. His defense is overrated especially in that it is his primal focus. He managed to get badly hurt by Mosley and Knocked down vs Judah.
    Manny never got wobbled once in much tougher Welterweight bouts.
    Therefore it is my conclusion that the best defense here is the best offense and Pac's offense is better than Floyd's defense.
     
  10. Exactabox

    Exactabox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Look I apologize that you r were dupped by Floyd and believed there was just nobody on his level. Apparently his fans did not see Manny out the left rearview mirror zooming down because he came at a strange angle. Well he came and he passed by Floyd and your idol can't do a damn thing except to throw a shot in the dark and ask for a drug test. Pathetic.
    Reminds me of the headbut on saturday night.
     
  11. mrjotatp4p

    mrjotatp4p THE ONE Full Member

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    Are you ****ing serious? You must be joking. First, Floyd is not the same as flat footed Cotto, Margarito or any of these other fighters. He is the most skilled fighter in boxing and he is the smartest inside that ring. You know that. The jab will neutralize Manny's timing and speed bc it will offset him. I don't care who you are. JMM jab did it all damn night. Floyd's foot work has not lost a step you idiot. He has the best footwork. He just doesn't move around the ring like he did when he was younger but his footwork is probably even better than it ever was. Let me just give you a better example. JMM is a better combination puncher than Manny. We all know that. He couldn't land combinations for **** on Floyd and its bc Floyd controlled the range from the start. Manny is not smart enough to beat a fighter like Floyd. Roach can't fight for him. What happens when Manny's offense gets shut down? Tell me that. What happens when he can't get off 5 punch combos bc Floyd is not there for him to land them? Then what.
     
  12. mrjotatp4p

    mrjotatp4p THE ONE Full Member

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    First of all this is not a guy who takes anything from Manny if you read my post. Manny is great at what he does and I give him credit. By the way I have been to 3 of his fights which is probably more than any of you damn PAC fans. Now you want to bring up drug test that your fighter refused to do without cutoffs. Give me a break. A pro athlete in 2011 flip flopping over the best testing in the world is more than enough to show that something isn't right. Anyways that was a nice try to try and take the conversation away from boxing but you failed. Now please tell me what will happen when Manny can't get off those combos and has to think with Floyd? You can't beat a chess player like Floyd playing checkers. We have heard all this **** before. Floyd is scared, Floyd doesn't want to lose his 0, Floyd is about to face his toughest opponent today, and much more and the Floyd dominates and the media and haters make excuses.
     
  13. mrjotatp4p

    mrjotatp4p THE ONE Full Member

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    EXACTABOX where are you at? Dude I haven't even scratched the surface with you yet. Now please tell me what happens when Manny can't land those combos bc Floyd is not there to be hit with them? What does he do after that? See one huge difference that you fail to not mention is Floyd's reach advantage that he will actually use unlike the rest of these slow ass flat footed bigger guys Manny has been facing. I am waiting on you.
     
  14. Exactabox

    Exactabox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Manny has been taking drug tests for years. What's next wearing headgear.
     
  15. Exactabox

    Exactabox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Did you see how Shane 40 years old out of the ring for his longest duration paid of by May to undertrain and stalked by the USDA during his fake training camp with no sparring partners threw a jab to the body and the great defense master dropped his hands and got cracked by a right upstairs ?