How can anybody feel that Jones was greater than Mayweather?

Delete your account you clown, you're out of your depth on anything boxing related!

You're trying to compare the circumstances of two fighters, who peaked in a different era's at different weights. atsch

Roy had fought 50 times (6 more fights than Floyd) when he went up to HW, and then came back to LHW within the space of 8-9 months.

Floyd's only being fighting once per year.

If Floyd carries on past his best, which is more than likely, then he could lose, just like Roy, Ray Robinson, Ray Leonard etc. You'll probably be on here in a few years time defending his losses, along with loads of other people.

 

I don't see how he will cruise past Roy.

It's hard to compare two fighters resumes. There's a hell of a lot things that you need to take into consideration.

Both fighters had different sets of circumstances surrounding them.

 

He wasn't JUST athletically gifted.

You couldn't have given Carl Lewis a pair of boxing gloves, and then watched him dominate for ten years across different weights.

 

SRR was losing to ELITE fighters and in close fights when he was past his best. Jones is getting knocked silly by Glen Johnson, Danny Green, and a guy that looks like a Russian Popeye :rofl

Do you even watch Boxing? Because by this post it shows you don't know **** about the history of the sport. You are the one that should delete your account.

 

saygn Floyd cruises past roy on resume definitely isn't a negative for roy.
roy was amazing. he just ruled a weak era

 

No Jones thread is complete without Rico chiming in with his passionate hatered for everything that is Roy..

No point in arguing him either, you get nowhere.

No plan B? Getting KO'ed by Griffin?? What a joke.atsch

And I hate to burst your bubble Rico... But Mayweater is not "iron" chinned. He gets hit hard and clean enough, those lights will be out.. Old man Mosley proved that, damn near had him out of there.

 

Reader,

PBF starred in the epic Iron Chin Warriors movie produced by some of ESB's greatest and most knowledgeable posters. He has a very good Chin. Jones on the other hand was the main Star in 2 of the ESB Glass Jaws movies. That tells us all we need to know.

 

So what that he got put down?

Don't try and tell me that you wasn't shocked as to what you saw in 2004?

He was on his way to getting knocked out against Griffin? Ha! Of course he was!

HE LEFT HIS DAD IN 1992. :good

I love debating with you, because your hatred just defies all logic. You're hilarious!

A guy who started out a 154, that had a disgraceful jaw made of glass, who unified at LHW and then fought and beat a top 5 HW, (which hasn't been done since) gets no credit from you.

Ha!

You can't have it both ways!

A former 154 guy with glass, has to be given credit for being undefeated in 50 fights across 5 weight classes.

 

:rofl

His chin is good, no doubt..

But I honestly believe if hit right on the button, hard enough as Roy was with a punch he never sees coming... It could crack..

Old Mosley almost had him out on his feet.:deal
What if that was prime Roided Mosley?:yikes

I am a believer of punch resistance declining from fight to fight, late in a career when knocked out...

 

Hector Camacho was elite in 97?

Ray had 40 fights.

Roy didn't lose until he dropped back from heavy after 50 fights.

The point is, lots of fighters get beat when they fights past the best.

The trouble with you is, your hatred ties you up in knots.

You laugh that Lebedev knocked Roy out, but at the same time call Roy reluctant with a glass jaw.

So you're not going to give Roy credit for going to Russia at 42 and taking on a top CW when way past his best, with a glass jaw?

You're a joke!

 

The Del Valle knockdown was a flash knockdown..

I think the punch buzzed Roy a bit for sure, but he slipped too, when his leg kicks out from under him, it was right on a spot of the ring both fighters had been slipping on the entire fight.

That was not a "chicken dance" as I have seen some claim..

We need to realize too, most true LHW fighters are a big puncher to a former JMW..

 

Was it that weak though? Or did Roy make it look weak?

He beat some good fighters with ease.


I don't see that when you've broke everything down, how Floyd cruises past him?


It'd take a long time to do an unbiased, objective break down, such as:


Who did both fighters fight?

At what point did they fight them?

What were the circumstances involved?

What had their opponents achieved before?

What did they go on to achieve afterwards?

Who did they miss?

What were the circumstances involved?

Who achieved more etc?


Floyd at present, as the longevity. But he's had 44 fights.

Roy had 6 more fights, before he started to slip.


Floyd's resume looks impressive with Cotto, Mosley and De La Hoya etc on it.

But when you do some digging, it's not as impressive as it first seems.


De La Hoya was past his best, and had only had 2 to 3 fights in 3 years. He retired the following year.

Cotto was never the same after the Marg fight.

Mosley nearly got beat by Mayorga, unitl a split second KO, and then could only manage a draw with Mora after he'd fought Floyd.


You could do the same with Roy's opponents.


So I don't see how anyone could cruise past the other.

 

****** I said SRR NOT SRL :rofl

See you don't even know the history of the sport you are just some delusional Roy Jones fan boy that posts his opinion of what you thought would have happened instead of what DID happen. You were brutally exposed in another thread of this.

 

Look at you, you're a hypocritical joker!

I'll gladly bring up sir Joseph's name to emphasise my point.

You're on another thread telling everybody how it wouldn't have been fair for Joe to have fought the big LHW's of the past, but here you are, not giving any credit to a former 154 guy, who beat a 220 pound top 5 HW.

You're the exact same as Rico.

You're biased hatred defies all logic.

 

Also...

I have seen others get credit for getting off the canvas to dominate..

Why not Roy? All you hear is "glass jaw" and "no plan B"