How can anyone rate Mayweather's win over Marquez?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by horst, Aug 1, 2010.


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  1. horst

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    Because your posts are so gloriously moronic that I cannot resist highlighting it at every opportunity.

    Seriously, the two posts I quoted are two of the most disgraceful posts ever made on this forum. I take the fact that you didn't even make an effort to defend your position on either issue as an admission of extreme stupidity. :good
     
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  2. MAG1965

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    Marquez at either 126 or 130 or combined did not equal or come close to Hagler or Louis. Those guys were elite and dominant.
     
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  3. MAG1965

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    Barkley is 3 division champion also and he is not elite.
     
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  4. MAG1965

    MAG1965 Loyal Member banned

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    Very similar to Hagler/Duran. Not in scoring and tactics, but sort of the mindset of Hagler and Mayweather. Hagler did not see Roberto as much of a threat but fought like he was sparring, and then he found out the rounds were slipping by, and he pored it on and won a decision.
     
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  5. PugilisticPower

    PugilisticPower The Blonde Batman Full Member

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    Floyd's best wins? Hernandez, Manfredy, Corrales (All 130) , Castillo, Chop Chop, (135) Mosley - 147

    JMM's best wins? Barrera, Juarez, Pacquaio (Draw) - 130, Casamayor, Diaz, Diaz (135)

    JMM fight night weight against Barrera? 139
    Floyd fight night weight against Baldomir? 144.

    Sure, you want to believe that Floyd is infinitely bigger and way better at the bigger weights than JMM but lets face it, when was the last time Floyd really dominated someone like he did Corrales and like he was doing 130-135?

    JMM dominated fights at 135 and looked great at 130 - in fact, he had a patchy career UNTIL he hit 130. That's where he got himself ranked in P4P rating.

    ****ing idiots, reversing history
     
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  6. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    Hey, MAG. Here's JMM on Ring's list of top ten non-elites for at least 177 weeks of non-eliteness.


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    I have a feeling we're going to find out your definition of elite is " A size of type on a typewriter, equal to 12 characters per linear inch." In which case, Marquez really wouldn't be elite, I suppose. (PS, I didn't compare Marquez to Louis or Hagler, you took that out of context and it wasn't addressed to you. Nice job on logic, as usual).
     
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  7. Real_Truth

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    You are ****ing stupid. :deal
     
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  8. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    Not much value in the win. I wouldn't call it meaningless, and if it was a mismatch it's still a tune-up fight. So, little value but acceptable. I guess...
     
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  9. Indio-Bandido

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    For real. This dude's a moron. How did you react when u found out that your mom and your sister are the same person?
     
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  10. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    :shock:
     
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  11. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    Mayweather's win over Marquez was pretty pointless. Great...all he proved was he can beat a much smaller guy. Wow...never seen THAT before...
     
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  12. horst

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    HyperMegaFail#1:

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    HyperMegaFail#2:

    As I said before, you clearly have not seen Marquez fight at featherweight so you should not be commenting on when his peak was. If you think JMM's performances against Diaz and Casamayor were better than his performances against the likes of Peden and Gainer, then explain why.
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    HyperMegaFail#3:

    I'm going to re-quote the next section, just to let the sheer insane stupidity of it sink in a bit more...

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    ...do you think that maybe it is because Floyd had been fighting there for a number of years and was accustomed and acclimatized to the weight and the heavier opponents, and JMM had no such experience whatsoever?

    ...do you think it's maybe because Floyd has won titles, beat good fighters, turned in excellent performances, and thoroughly proven himself at those weights, whereas JMM has never even fought there once?


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    HyperMegaFail#4:

    There is yet more horror in that same section, so I'll quote it yet again. It takes time to really investigate a mind this twisted with ******ation...

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    FYI, Mayweather was far more dominant vs Bruseles, Gatti, Mitchell, Hatton and Mosley than he was vs Castillo at 135, and Jesus Chavez and Emanuel Augustus at 130.

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    HyperMegaFail#5:

    Oh really? :huh

    What fights were those then??

    I'd be very interested to hear this. Because it can't be either Diaz fight or the Casamayor fight, and to my knowledge those are his only ever fights at 135.

    I had JMM up by 3 or 4 points going into the 11th vs Casa, which was closer than the judges, as two of them had it 95-95 at that point. No-one could call that a domination.

    No-one could say the first Diaz fight was a domination, considering Diaz dominated the first few rounds, and was about level on my card at the time of the stoppage, and was drawing on the official judges' cards (76-76,77-75,75-77) by the 8th.

    And no-one could say the second Diaz fight was a domination, I had it 115-113 JMM, 7 rounds to 5, and I defy anyone to give Diaz less than four rounds, despite the judges' cards he won 4 rounds as clear as day, I gave him another but that one was a close call. Nevertheless, nowhere even close to a domination.


    HyperMegaFail#6:

    You are a clown. Your posts on this thread have been an embarrassment to boxing fans everywhere. You ought to be ashamed of yourself. :good
     
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  13. PugilisticPower

    PugilisticPower The Blonde Batman Full Member

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    Anyone can pick apart points, use a bunch of emoticons and different colors but seriously - the person doing the most arguing is usually the one losing the argument

    De La Hoya wasn't a big win for either fighter, he was well past his prime - Judah hasn't done anything great since his loss to Baldomir and Hatton? Don't make me laugh, most people don't give Mayweather any credit for that fight.

    By Dominated, I mean walked down and absolutely blitzkrieged - all there is, is Gatti. He decisively beat the other guys but it wasn't like he was a power puncher at any other weight but 130 - even then, he wasn't a one punch power fighter, so explain to me how being 147lbs gives him huge advantages here, when JMM is still knocking out world level talent at 135?

    So now you're saying Mayweather deserves credit for all of his last fights except JMM? Yeah, you're completely intelligent and always consistent. Like I said, you're a ****ing clown.
     
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  14. MAG1965

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    although to be honest. How can Marquez be elite. If he was elite there is no way this fight would be just a tuneup, and it was. He is a very good fighter who fought great fighters, but is being overrated.
     
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  15. PugilisticPower

    PugilisticPower The Blonde Batman Full Member

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    It's a mismatch in the same sense that Pacquiao vs Floyd would be a mismatch. The P4P #2 fighter in the world was a mismatch against Floyd because? Floyd is that good.
     
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