How can anyone say the Castillo vs Mayweather fight was not a robbery?

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  1. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    Floyd took the belt from him because he clearly landed the cleaner punches. To say Castillo won means that you can't score a fight. You can't be trusted to score big fights. Sorry!:lol:
     
  2. Enigmadanks

    Enigmadanks Boxing Addict Full Member

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    So a close decision win for either man is all of a sudden a robbery????

    Let's not make it out to be JLC beat Mayweather 9-3 and got screwed over by the judges, it was a much closer fight than that. It could've been scored 7-5 for either fighter or a draw and I would've had no problem with that.

    Not to defend floyd here, but the guy did tear his rotator cuff in his shoulder 2 days before the fight with Castillo. the only reason he didn't cancel the match is because he didn't know when he'd have another shot at the LW title if he cancelled it, and at the time he was still building up his popularity and a cancelling of a title fight would set him back a few measures.

    He had surgery on his rotator cuff about a week after the fight, than gave JLC an immediate rematch where he beat him handily, although the judges scored it much closer the second time around.

    I personally thought FLoyd won 7-5 (FLoyd landed the cleaner shots whereas JLC did the better overall bodywork,) but I have no problem with anyone calling that fight a draw. Congrats to JLC for giving a one armed fighter at the time his toughest fight to date. We found out pretty quickly in their rematch that he doesn't really have a chance against a healthy version of Mayweather.

    Now to the TS, the word robbery is very subjective in boxing forums, so let me tell you what I think a robbery is. GO watch Joel casamayor against Santa Cruz. Go watch that fight and orient yourself to what the quintessential definition of a robbery is. Not a close fight that was 7-5 at worst. Come on now.
     
  3. blackbolt396

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  4. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    Ray brings up a good point. He is a Pac fan. You didn't go deep into his posting history.:lol:
     
  5. BlizzyBlizz

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    Anyone who thinks Castillo won can't score a fight. All you have to do is keep it real. Here's the fight lol. I love posting this fight.

    http://youtu.be/DKCTWc3xFiw
     
  6. Enigmadanks

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    There's no reason to even show the clip.

    You have to remember there are people in this forum whose lives are so miserable they have to take out their frustration and vitriol towards fighters. So you posting that video isn't going to do anything for those people who already hate Mayweather. They have it engrained in their minds he lost to JLC and Maidana the first time around, while most people who have actually been following boxing before Manny and FLoyd were popular fighters probably see the JLC-FLoyd I match a little more objectively.

    I mean look at the idiot TS of this thread, he's trying to state it was a robbery. A robbery! I mean seriously a tough, close fight like that, and he thinks that's what robbery means.

    It speaks volumes to the TS's lack of boxing knowledge if he thinks that fight was a robbery.

    If you want to enlighten people, show the Santa Cruz-Casamayor video to show the rudimentary posters what a true boxing robbery looks like.
     
  7. duffy_89

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    I'm no Mayweather fan but he deservedly won the fight. The commentators were incredibly biased and heavily influenced by an inaccurate compubox. Castillo had a 40% PCT? Any knowledgeable boxing fan could see most of those punches were slipped or off the gloves.
    Great fight but ultimately Floyd racked up valuable early rounds and controlled the center of the ring by out jabbing/ out maneuvering Castillo.
    Castillo did have great success however pushing Floyd back against the ropes, throwing many viscous body shots and hooks, but there just wasn't enough sustained pressure from him to win. Maybe if the fight was 15 rounds things might of been different...

    114-112 Mayweather

    1-5 - Mayweather
    6-7 - Castillo
    8 - Mayweather (10-8 round)
    9 - Mayweather
    10 - Castillo (10-8 round)
    11 - Castillo
    12 - Castillo
     
  8. BlizzyBlizz

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    Larry Merchant on Castillo hitting on the break and being penalized. "I just thought that, that was a reflex tap"! Lmfao...
     
  9. Bald_Toad

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    clear robbery. mayweather had trouble landing clean the entire fight, most shots were parried or dodged by castillo. castillo came on strong after the fourth round and i don't think mayweather was expecting it. all in all a learning experience but clearly a loss.

    round 1 mayweather 10-9
    round 2 mayweather 10-9
    round 3 mayweather 10-9
    round 4 mayweather 10-9
    round 5 castillo 10-9
    round 6 castillo 10-9
    round 7 castillo 10-9
    round 8 castillo
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    round 9 castillo 10-9
    round 10 castillo
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    round 11 castillo 10-9
    round 12 castillo 10-9

    115-111 castillo
     
  10. dannyboy147

    dannyboy147 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Its just myth that people that didnt watch the fight continually spout. I bet you didnt watch it either. The fight was close, Floyd moved up and fought the man of the division and it was close, theres no conspiracy. A lot of fights between 2 elite fighters are close.

    Its completley irrelivant that Castillio outlanded Floyd with jabs and/or power punches. The fight like every other is scored on a round by round ten point must system. Floyd arguably won 5 of the first 6 rounds. He then picked up another 2 along the way and edged a close decision.

    People make out Floyd robbed him and then ran away upto 140 but he gave him an immediate rematch after acknowledging the fight was close. If anything the second fight was closer than the first fight. I scored the first fight a win to Mayweather 7-5 i think and the second fight a draw.

    Nobody ever mentions the second fight,why? Because they havent watched either.
     
  11. Enigmadanks

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    That's interesting that you mention their 2nd fight being closer.

    It's been a few years since I've seen either bout (I've seen both a few times,) and I vividly remember FLoyd beating Castillo the second time around much more clearly. I though he won around 8 rounds in their second match.

    I'm going to go rewatch both of those fights this weekend and re-score them round by round. I agree with you about the 1st fight though, and that the people that clamor that JLC won probably didn't score the fight round by round to understand how the punches were distributed per round. I don't think Castillo won more than a round or 2 in the first 6 rounds of the first fight.

    Anyway this thread has peaked my curiosity enough to rewatch those matches again.
     
  12. duffy_89

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    How can you possibly score round 8 a 9-9 round? Castillo didn't land clean once, whilst Mayweather controlled the entire round with his jab. With the point deduction there is no debate it was a 10-8 round.
     
  13. LordSouness

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    If you know the key factors in scoring a fight, this one is easy to score.

    Mayweather wins it.
     
  14. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    Lederman lol
     
  15. Bald_Toad

    Bald_Toad Ring Title Full Member

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    you're an idiot. what a garbage argument "castillo didn't land flush". well let me come back with my great argument as well "castillo did land flush".