How can Golovkin become the lineal middleweight champ?

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  1. IronMikey

    IronMikey Member Full Member

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    Canelo still has it and it can only be relinquished in the ring or due to retirement IIRC. Can GGG ever be the man?
     
  2. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Live as if you were to die tomorrow Full Member

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    He can start a new one I believe its happened before but I could be talking out my ass
     
  3. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Beat Canelo or beat the next best if Canelo leaves the division full time.
     
  4. Selina

    Selina Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The thing is, Canelo isn´t anywhere near the best in the division. Next best is someone like Heiland..lol. Golovkin is the man, has been the man for many year already. Lets not make it a contest anymore - there are no fighter want to challenge is position.
     
  5. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    Canelo was a 1:5 underdog vs. GGG when he dropped the belt. So no, hes not the lineal champion anymore. You can't preserve the lineal status by running away being the underdog.
     
  6. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Bowe did it with Lewis as well.
     
  7. IronMikey

    IronMikey Member Full Member

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    It's gone from Martinez to Cotto to Canelo so although we know GGG is the best at the weight, he hasn't beat the man. Surely that has to count for something. Who can decide to strip Alvarez of it? What's the cut off for inactivity at the weight?
     
  8. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    He can create a new lineage since Alvarez both vacated and moved down in weight. If he stayed at middleweight, he could have a claim for retaining it.

    It'd make no sense that Liam Smith could become lineal middleweight champion in a fight at Jr middleweight.
     
  9. PBC is great

    PBC is great Dehydrated Full Member

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    By getting the WBO belt.
     
  10. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Liam Smith can't become lineal MW champion in a fight at LMW.

    Canelo only vacated his WBC belt. Not the Ring belt or the lineal belt. He's said he wants to fight Golovkin at 160. He's still the champion.
     
  11. Gil Gonzalez

    Gil Gonzalez Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    You guys can't figure this out because you're talking nonsense. A guy who doesn't fight at middleweight, who has never fought at mw, who refuses to fight at mw, and who says he's not a mw, is somehow the lineal mw champ. People, listen to yourselves.

    You can say the lineal is vacant, you can say it falls to another mw champ, but please don't say Saul Alvarez is the lineal middleweight champ.
     
  12. rodney

    rodney Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ginger has nothing but that big yellow streak down his back.
     
  13. alspacka

    alspacka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    How about if, say, Thurman takes a fight with Canelo and beats him at 154, then moves back down to welter. Is the 'Lineal Middleweight Title' then contested at 147?
     
  14. IRON - Mike

    IRON - Mike عمیر šéRèå! Kî!!ër رأجہ Full Member

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    Difficult considering all the following ducked him.

    Boxers that ducked/ducking GGG

    1---Sturm - wouldn't fight him for over 2 years when GGG was mandatory.

    2---Quillin - said he will only fight for the may-pac kind of money, lol + he flew to Haymon to avoid GGG

    3---Martinez - "His promoter said that "no way I am putting him with this monster", GGG kept calling him out after his U.S. debut after every fight

    4---Cotto - ducked his mandatory(GGG) twice by fighting Geale and Canelo

    5---Chavez jr - Turned down 12mil offer by TR

    6---Canela - Avoided his mando(GGG). Thinks that he is fighting at the weight-class of 155, as there is no such thing as a "155 weight-class" ,he is pretending to be not in the MW division because of GGG.There are 17 divisions just pick one, if you can't make 154 then you are a MW, simple. And then he dropped the belt when he had to fight GGG next, wow

    7---Froch - After calling GGG out then when GGG accepted ,he backed down and now he is retired after making all the fuss, + GGG was calling him for more than a year b4 he was retired so no excuses for "retiring".

    8---Ward - The diva of the 168lb division don't want to travel or meet the a-side GGG in a catchweight so he can become a good boy and get ktfo. Was willing to goto 160 for Floyd but when GGG said 164, Ward ducked + he was fine when Dawson came down a whole division for him but wont move half a division for GGG, smh

    9---Saunders - Even before winning the WBO title from Lee his fear of Golovkin was as biright as day this is just one of many interviews(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJuwAz-ekoQ), then after winning it he priced himslef out at 6 mil$. Then turned down $3.2mill offer from k-2(its 2.2 gbp so I converted)

    10---Eubank jr - Very similar to Froch's duck of GGG, after calling GGG out he ducked when he had to sign

    11---Jacobs - asked for a life changing money and then said that after 18 months, lol gtfoh.

    12---Njikam -When Hassaan was WBO champ, he was ordered to a purse bid to face Golovkin no less than two times and he was a no show each time.

    13---Barker - When Barker defeated Geale to become IBF champ, his promoter openly said that Barker will fight any1 except GGG
     
  15. N17

    N17 Loyal Member Full Member

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    You forfeit any claim to be lineal champion the minute you drop the title to avoid your mandatory.

    It really is that simple.