How Can Hagler Be An ATG Middle?

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  1. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    As Champion Hagler's best wins are over:
    John Mugabi . A blown up jnr middle weight .
    Tommy Hearns. A blown up welterweight.
    Roberto Duran. A blown up Super Bantamweight.
    Hagler also drew with Vito Antuofermo .A blown up jnr middleweight .
    And was beaten by Ray Leonard .A blown up welterweight .

    Surely this is not the stuff all time greats are made of?:think
     
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    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    :lol: :lol: I get what you're doing and why, but stop, please. :exmad
     
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    Little-known fact: When Roberto Duran was born, he weighted in at somewhere south of 108 pounds, so it's actually even worse than you describe. Duran is actually a blown-up light-flyweight.

    Hagler is clearly not what he seems.
     
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    Okay ,it is the season of good cheer.


    Plus I've had more than my share of mileage out of the Argentinian pimp .
     
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    Have you had a bang on the head? How about beating all Comer's for 7years.
     
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    Littler-known fact: half of that consisted of the partly digested remains of Duran's twin brother, Eddie Duran, consumed in the womb by Roberto somewhere in the final trimester. Putting his true birth weight somewhere around the measly 59lb mark, so he's a blown up half-fly.

    The vicious bastard. :verysad
     
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    :lol::good
     
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    I do not disagree with any of this, however, Hagler's competition was better than Monzon's. :deal

    I also said that Hagler declined moving up to light heavy.

    As for the Antuofermo draw, that was a case of bad judging. Monzon, by the way, is a king of the draws. He had nine of them :) If there is a video of all of them, I'd wager most would score a loss or two for CM.
     
  10. Berlenbach

    Berlenbach Boxing Addict Full Member

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    How can Sugar Ray Robinson be an ATG welterweight?

    He beat:

    Henry Armstrong, blown-up featherweight
    Kid Gavilan, blown-up bantamweight
    Fritzie Zivic, blown-up featherweight
    Sammy Angott, blown-up featherweight
    Marty Servo, blown-up lightweight
    Bernard Docusen, blown-up featherweight
     
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    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    And how many top ranked black fighters did he face? Enjoying this game.
     
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    :yep
     
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    And Jake LaMotta, weight-drained light-heavy. :good
     
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    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Let's take a quick survey of respected boxing historians' stances on Robinson and whether the consensus view is holding whatever top ranked black fighters he didn't fight against him to such a point that it detracts from his generally accepted position at or near the apex of the p4p heap?
     
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    Robinson himself was nothing but a blown up Lightweight!:verysad