I don't buy into the whole theory that Pacquiao was winning IV going away before the knockout. He had a very good last 30 seconds or so in round 5, and round 6 was going his way before the KO, but not by much. If he didn't go down from that final shot when he did, JMM would have caught him eventually. Or maybe he would have wore the slower, muscle bound JMM down. Who knows? To thoroughly and decisively beat Juan, what does he have to do? Hope JMM has a bad night. JMM has his #. In spades.
He cannot legitimately and clearly ever beat Marquez, he is just the superior fighter. HE can always get a decision with the HBO judges saying, with a Mayweather fight looming around the corner I can see PACQUIAO getting the decision.... blah blah blah Marquez TKO in Pt.5 PAC will never be the same mentally after going night night for 2 minutes against his superior.
I don't see him winning. Baiting counters by feinting, circling, and feigning advances and countering the counters was the best game-plan he could have gone for, and it's what we saw in the first 5 rounds.
Agreed. But it could have worked out differently. At least for some time Marquez had a look of desperation in his eyes. I say the same gameplan and not going crazy when having Marquez seemingly hurt will provide very good chances for Pacquiao.
Problem there is that allows JMM the space to turn and box. But it's not unimaginable. Though I didn't see any look of "desperation" myself.
If I had t seen any of their fights and just read this thread I would swear pacquiao should not be in the ring with the beast they call Marquez lol.
I did'nt see desperation either. Even when he was taking shots in the 5th, I'm looking at the replay and you could see Marquez zoned in unfazed and still looking for creeces. And for those that say Pacquiao was walking away with round 6, here's round 6. Pacquiao has the better of of in the first half of the round, but in the last half, it Marquez whose finding the mark and starting to turn the tide....... ......that was'nt Pacquiao trying to finish Marquez when he got caught, it more than likely both fighters had heard the 10 second signal and were trying to each close the round strong. Marquez baited Pacquiao and he fell right into the right hand as he's done countless number of times before. Round 6 [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUTi9CDytpM"]www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUTi9CDytpM[/ame]
Well just my opinion but what he did in Marquez - Pac 3 was the way to beat Marquez. Land more punches than him and outwork him and be the aggressor but staying out of harms way enough to avoid more of Marquez' powerful counterpunches. (Pacquiao blocked loads of his punches with his gloves in the 3rd fight). But of course people would always scream robbery if Pacquaio doesn't dominate Marquez which was never going to happen as they were both so evenly matched. (Also Marquez always lands the more memorable hard counters). The other way to beat him is to watch the Mayweather - Marquez fight and use the gameplan Mayweather used.
This, pretty much. People act as if Pacquiao was pummeling Marquez, and going in for the kill when he got caught with a good shot. Pacquiao landed that left, which knocked JMM back a bit, but Marquez came right back, backing Pacquiao up. Marquez then got his bearings back after throwing a few wild punches...it was almost as if he sensed Pacquiao would do something stupid, and do something stupid Pacquiao definitely did.
Everytime I post that round 6 to a ******* and ask for them to explain where Pacquiao has control and is dominating, I dont here back from them!