How can Pacquiao beat Marquez???

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  1. Slickstar

    Slickstar Crisp This Full Member

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    I had Marquez winning rounds two through ten in 3.

    I haven't watched the Bradley fight in a long time, but I definitely had manny winning.
     
  2. ricardinho

    ricardinho Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Its simple science F=MA with improved speed Marquez was able to hit with more force. I used to work as an assistant to one of the trainers at my college and have observed how these workouts can improve speed and power. Ariza says the same thing and was saddened by the fact that Roach rejected strength and conditioning. One does not gain speed without properly training the muscle groups. I am certain that after this fight people will become more accepting of modern training principles in Mexico.
     
  3. ChampionsForever

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  4. casian72

    casian72 Active Member Full Member

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    The only fluke is the one episode of heterosexuality you experienced. Pacfag!!!

    Rahman No of Lewis was what you would call a fluke.

    Marquez constantly improving against Pacquiao culminating in KO6, thru four fights is definitely not a fluke. It was simply a thing of beauty.
     
  5. PIPO23

    PIPO23 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I agree.

    If Pacquiao was good enough he would have beaten Morales or Marquez first time like Floyd did. But he didn't.Pac struggled badly. It all points to one thing and what separates Marquez and Morales from Pacquiao.It is the massive deficit in skills, ring IQ, intelligence, defense or lack of.

    Floyd toyed with MARQUEZ because he is superior more intelligent than Marquez in the squared cirlce.If you're that good then you should beat someone like Marquez convincingly. But i don't think Pacquiao is that good. I have always said that he wasn't.


    There's no more excuses. As a pacquiao fan i have to admit. Pacquiao is overrated and is not good enough to beat Marquez convincingly.Pac is Marquez biyotch he is tailor made for MArquez style all day everyday.
     
  6. steviebruno

    steviebruno ESB NYC Delegate banned Full Member

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    Marquez beat Pac by catching him cold.

    Manny will one day beat JMM by catching him old.
     
  7. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    Even the biggest Pacquiao hater can't say Pacquiao is overrated without openly trolling. **** off with that bull****, "Pacquiao fan" my ass.
     
  8. gyll

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    Yes I can. Pac is overrated in a sense that people are saying he's 10 times better than what he really is - which is a great fighter but NOT close to being greatest of all time. If a Pac groupie rate him as a 10 (out of 10), to me he's more like a 7.5, maybe 8.
     
  9. Slickstar

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    I met tons of people who thought he was incapable of losing badly even though he's quite the flawed fighter. If that's not overrating his capabilities, I don't know what is.
     
  10. PIPO23

    PIPO23 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    What? he has over exceeded my expectation with his ridiculous reckless

    style and sloppy techniques in the ring.
     
  11. JM22

    JM22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    So you think Pacquiao is this "new and improved beast" who can beat just about anybody as long as he's wearing the right socks, gloves, shoes, thong ect..??? I might have to rewatch all his fights in "slow mo" to see what you'll see in him that I haven't seen.
     
  12. Scar

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    Muhammad Ali made a mistake and almost got knocked out by Henry Cooper, Lewis made a mistake and got knocked out by Rahman, Hearns made a mistake and got knocked out by Barkley, Moore made a mistake and got knocked out by Marciano, Leonard made a mistake and was knocked down by Howard and the examples are endless. Does that mean all of those guys are overrated too?

    Fact is, Pacquiao's situation can't be denied and ignored. He was knocked down earlier in the fight and clearly felt embarrassed/angered by it. As soon as he hurt Marquez, you could tell he's desperate to make as big a mark as possible and that reckless hope for revenge is what cost him the fight. You can't completely ignore these points especially when Pacquiao came back from that knockdown to serious bruise/hurt Marquez.
     
  13. bjl12

    bjl12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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  14. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    What does this have to do with my post?, have you fully resorted to ******ed trolling after your failed support of Concreto. Remember that stuff? :lol:, "Concreto is the most feared beast since Hagler" when in reality all he did was call out smaller opponents, load up his gloves and end up going life and death or pummeled. All that while apes like you cheered like school girls. Thong?, you would know a lot more about thongs, imbecile. See, I can post something completely unrelated as well, only more colorful for you to comprehend.
     
  15. bjl12

    bjl12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He also just outboxed him fights 1 and 3. The KO was an exclamation point, but he put on clinics in the 1st and 3rd fights. Pac just can't fight people who understand that boxing is a chess game. He needs people who rely on brute physical prowess.