How can people say Golovkin is a hype job, but Broner isn't?

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  1. Farmboxer

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    Broner is a hype job, makes almost everyone sick!
     
  2. Super Hans

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    :good
     
  3. darryl1914

    darryl1914 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah I know right...what does that even mean, World Titles. HA!!!


    SMH!!!
     
  4. Super Hans

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    I know! I wonder if Sugar Ray Robinson ever beat someone like Vincente Rodriguez to capture one of his titles. Or if Muhammed Ali ever beat someone on a gift, who was past it, never anything special in the first place, won the belt off a guy who bought it, then won a gift himself over a guy who either side lost to 2 pensioners? :think
     
  5. Nonito Smoak

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    A) Brook has never faced anyone close to as good as Ponce de Leon before.

    How about we give Broner some credit for fighting Daniel Ponce de Leon at the novice age of 20 or 21 years old. Because very few fighters ever fight an opponent of that caliber that early into their career.

    B) If you can continuously state Broner has lost 3 times (as if you think it is official or factual somehow), then I sure as hell can say that Brook lost big time to Carson Jones in their first fight...

    And Carson Jones is a shred of the fighter that Ponce is.

    C) It sounds like you are generalizing what likely one person said in regards to the Broner/Paulie/Senchenko triangle theory. Or making it up altogether. How many "Broner fans" have you seriously discussed Brook with in relation to how his beating Senchenko equates to Broner's rating at WW?

    If you watched the fights, you would have noticed that Senchenko troubled Brook more in their meager 4 rounds than Senchenko managed to bother Paulie in their 8 rounds of action.

    You would also appreciate that Paulie beat up and damaged Senchenko's face, the first to beat him, over one whole year before Brook fought Senchenko.

    And you would further appreciate the difference in Paulie going to the Ukraine to fight Senchenko in his home country as opposed to Brook flying Senchenko up to England to fight in his own home country.
     
  6. Super Hans

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    A) Well done to Broner for fighting someone he likely had been assured of victory against should he reach the final bell. You really think the judge who had it 99-91 wasn't in GBP promotions back pocket. Give yourself a pat on the back Broner.


    B) While Jones did well in the first fight v Brook- no way he won enough rounds to win the fight. Similar to how there is no way Broner accumulated enough rounds to beat Ponce. Jones is underrated and would beat Malgnaggi in my opinion (especially when you consider Paulie had a robbery over Cano)

    C) I've discussed it with several Broner fans (who many may well be the same person as I can't imagine that many people being able to stand him, as if your a fan of him as a person, that really say a lot about you as a person) on this thread here:

    [url]http://www.boxingforum24.com/showthread.php?t=490340[/url]
     
  7. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    It's funny you say that.

    Golovkin won his interim WBA title from the one and only Milton Nunez (worse than Vicente Rodriguez!!!!), and officially became a titlist upon being elevated/promoted by the WBA.

    So not only does he have a bull**** title, but he didn't even win it in the ring.

    His first defense of the full WBA title was against Nilson Tapia.

    Actually that's right, it wasn't the full WBA title. It was one of two WBA titles, because Felix Sturm held the one that already existed before GGG won his "interim WBA" version.

    He was once again promoted, outside of the ring and not in it, to full titlist finally when Geale beat Sturm and dropped the WBA belt in favor of the IBF.




    Honestly, everything about GGG is the kind of **** that boxing fans whine all day about citing it as the reasons why boxing is going downhill and losing popularity.

    Seas were parted to gift him a belt. Since then he has been fighting nothing but JMW's moving up and faded fighters in hopes to legitimize his title reign. He has fought one opponent who was in the top 10 of his division. And all the while the media sings his praises.

    [Golovkin is an amazing talent, but in the end that is my opinion since he hasn't proven anything. Hasn't challenged himself, through fault of his own or not, to merit a shred of the discussion he receives.]
     
  8. Super Hans

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    For the record, I don't recognise GGG as a World Champ either. There is one world champ at 160 and one alone and that man is not GGG (yet), but I believe Golovkin could dethrone that man.

    Broner on the other hand has NO SHOT at beating Mayweather, Bradley, Marquez, Pacquiao or any other top 147lbers
     
  9. Nonito Smoak

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    I don't care about polls on these forums, dude. They mean nothing. They are skewed out of control and always have been.

    You study boxrec and take polls as gospel all the while not ever actually watching the fights. There are a surprising number of you folks out there.

    And if that somehow magically is not the case (only you know), then you are simply one of those smug ****s who think that their opinion is factual all the while not being able to grasp the notion that everyone has an opinion and that yours is no greater than any other as long as your anonymous behind a keyboard spewing nothing but talk of factual claims being wrong (i.e. you saying that Broner actually Lost 3 times) or finding random polls of others' opinions that seem to support your claim. Seriously, dude... Phony and annoying online persona to deal with.

    Stop obsessing over boxers you dislike. Your being so defensive to the point of referring to facts as wrong and posting so much recycled material shows a strange obsession that is an oxymoron to what you claim.
     
  10. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Well, respect to you for that admission.
     
  11. Lopetego

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    GGG is the real deal and the truth

    Broner is the hypejob
     
  12. Super Hans

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    People who study Boxrec and not watched fights would say that Broner beat De Leon with considerable ease- which is quite simply a ludicrous statement- he was clearly robbed,

    And you're the one who's being defensive about Broner in my opinion. And you say, you don't care about polls, but a poll being as one sided as this, clearly weeds out the trolls. You saying Broner has not lost 3 times, would indicate to me maybe you have not watched the fights and got your info off boxrec. And saying Golovkin has proven **** because he's been in there with fighters with a handful of loses- that's your standard Boxrec warrior response. If you watch fights- you'd know GGG is the real deal and taking legit guys out with the ease that other top middleweights such as Quillin, Strum and even Martinez simply have not and cannot.
     
  13. Super Hans

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    Sums it up really :good
     
  14. Super Hans

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    :lol:
     
  15. Flexb

    Flexb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    How can anyone not believe GGG is the real deal? This era is a weaker era in boxing than some past ones but the man still has the greatest KO % at middleweight surpassing some ATGs. He has yet to lose, he has an amateur record of over 300 wins with only 5 losses! silver medalist, so you know this man knows how to box very well, and then he hurts opponents not only easily to upstairs, but he's knocking guys out in the basement too!!!! Bring on whoever you want too, my goodness, he is not losing anytime soon. He will be the PPV king very soon.