How can we get rid of some of these corrupt organisations and get back to 1-2 champs per division

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  1. DONT B SCARED

    DONT B SCARED Pimpin Aint Easy Full Member

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    Who's the highest ruling authority and in charge of boxing currently,do they actually actually hold any real power to effect change? Is there anyway to cull some of these belts and make boxing more legitimate and as strong as it should be,with more big fights the fans want to see with the best fighting the best ?

    It's obviously not exactly the same scenario but over 10 years ago now soccer in Australia was largely being run by a couple of established clubs and different ethnic groups with there owns agenda which was destroying the growth of the competition and game overall.
    So the government formed an independent royal commission that stripped power away from these groups which enabled a new single stronger governing body that transformed the national competition here and has helped grow and make the game stronger.

    I'm not sure how but I was thinking that boxing needs something similar so we can get rid of these trash corrupt organisations and weed out people that have been destroying the credibility of the sport for a long time. People love watching big fights and there is over 100 year of data that proves that but imo because of a lack of leadership and corruption by those in charge we are lucky to get more then a few big fights a year with to many fighters and promoters allowed to are take the easiest money and safest options they can.
    The current governing bodies aren't interested in growing or making the sport better they allow anything as long as they get paid and just keep adding to the confusion by creating even more meaningless belts that are only positive for these organisations that are getting licencing fees
     
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  2. fistsof steel

    fistsof steel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I myself would love to see this to many Mickey Mouse Titles now.!!!
     
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  3. rhin0z>

    rhin0z> Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Never underestimate the other guys greed
     
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  4. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Personal opinion of rankings within a division matters much more than who pays the right sanctioning fees.
     
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  5. ashishwarrior

    ashishwarrior I'm vital ! Full Member

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    Boycott the lot
    Fans unite and recognize only one
    Wbf
    World boxing fans organisation

    Where the fans call for a fighters mandatory by poll
     
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  6. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Live as if you were to die tomorrow Full Member

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    only way to do that is pbc or everyone signs with dazn
     
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  7. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    It's impossible.

    This is because the ABC belts are nothing to do with the general public. Their customers are fighters.

    Fighters want titles. If they have titles they can demand more money.

    The WBA's list of titles is enormous. They have huge swathes of regional titles. They have an Asian best, an East Asian belt, a South Asian belt. Extrapolate this across the regions. When a fighter gets one of these belts he measures it as progress and he rewards his promoter with loyalty. It is now in the interest of the fighters and promoters to get these tin-pot belts, regardless of the fighter's true standing. In the industry they call getting one of these minor regional belts "choosing a path". Once you've chosen a path you have become a customer of that ABC. They will now show you preferential treatment as a reward for your paying them sanctioning fees for having that belt.

    These organisations are entwined with boxing. The only way the public could make any mark is to stop supporting by watching in any way shape of form or talking about that fighter online or off. That can't happen.

    The only higher authority is governmental. And they have bigger fish to fry.

    ABCs are here to stay. The only way to kill one is to sue it out of existence and they learned the lesson in the 90s. It's possible financial mis-management could also cost one but for every WBC there's a WBF itching to take its place.

    It's over. There will be tinpot keystone cops leeches for as long as there is boxing.
     
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  8. channy

    channy 4.7.33 banned Full Member

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    You will never get rid of them now, should have started with the WBO years ago.

    Only way to do it and it will never happen though, is to merge all belt and organization's in to one and with one belt only.

    As I said it will never happen.
     
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  9. BCS8

    BCS8 VIP Member

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    Good post. A depressing one, but a good one.
     
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  10. sdot_thadon

    sdot_thadon Active Member Full Member

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    I think there just needs to be more pressure or a higher reward to unifying divisions and that would solve alot of problems.
     
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  11. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    Yeah, it would have to be a single organization with rights over all fighters like the UFC. It's impossible at this moment. Promoters are too strong.
     
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  12. BCS8

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    Even if there were only 3 orgs with a definite championship belt each, I could live with that. Not these "super" and "duper" and "ultra" and "with raisins on top" belts.
     
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  13. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    Boxers would have to first unionize...without that, any attempt is useless. Unionization has it's own challenges but that is the first step and without that first step, you can't continue. If the fighters aren't interested in protecting themselves, the sport, and/or their peers then any attempt by someone outside is doomed to fail.
     
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  14. DONT B SCARED

    DONT B SCARED Pimpin Aint Easy Full Member

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    While it's true the belts and rankings have nothing to with the public,boxing and all professional sport has a responsibility to put on contests the paying customer wants to see or they simply don't succeed.
    There isn't any issue with the regional belts that give a pathway to the world title but creating these secondary "world titles" and silly gold and silver belts are more of an issue.
     
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  15. JabCross727

    JabCross727 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Simple: convince all the alphabet organizations why they should give up all their money. Not that I am not for a unified sanctioning body. I just have not yet thought of a solution to make an undisputed champion from all the belt holders we have today.
     
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