How come everyone thinks Manny Ducked Floyd all of a sudden?

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  1. JohnAnthony

    JohnAnthony Boxing Junkie banned

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    The general consensus was always floyd was the one that ducked manny.

    But how come, just because Manny struggled in his fight with Marquez that all of a sudden, everyone is now bad mouthing Manny and saying he ducked floyd.

    Has everyone suddenly changed there minds or is it just an army of *****s have suddenly arrived and being alot more vocal.

    As far as i can see. The negotiations broke down the 1st time (pre clottey) and i can see both argument about who was to blame on that one depending on your take.

    But its been over 2 years since then, and Floyd hasn't been available since that date to even negotiate with. Either he comes out of retirement and signs a fight when manny is already booked up. Or the only time they have both been available to negotiate, Floyd has announced he's on vacation.

    So how has Manny Ducked him when he's not been available. This is the 1st time floyd is available, and manny seems completely willing to make the fight.
     
  2. twofear

    twofear Well-Known Member Full Member

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  3. floyd_g.o.a.t

    floyd_g.o.a.t Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Because he's always been ducking him, people are only seeing it more clearly now.
     
  4. Anima

    Anima Kinetic Link Full Member

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    I think it's all Bob Arum mate.
     
  5. cesare-borgia

    cesare-borgia Übermensch in fieri Full Member

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    *****'s say what their god wants them to, if floyd says something it gets repeated for months here on esb, *****'s blame pac for the fight not happening due to not testing while others blame floyd for bringing up testing, after that its clearly mayweather avoiding with his loss of urge and going on vacation till now, also bob arum took a real advantage of that.
    at this point after jmm 3 he really seems to want it, so if it doesnt happen now you can put the blame on team pac if you want to.
     
  6. JohnAnthony

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    they are making ALOT of noise. It makes it sound like the whole of ESB have switched side.
     
  7. whoupicking?

    whoupicking? Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This is the first time pac team has been consistent in saying that they have accepted the drug testing demands, not one guy saying we accept only to hear a cut off day needs to be implemented in the contract, not arum saying we agree for koncz to say we need a 7 day window. Now everyone is on the same page no one has anything to contradict what the other is saying we now have everyone in pac team saying YES WE ACCEPT THE TESTING.:hi:

    As soon as pac team got on the same page, guess what it looks like we have a fight.
     
  8. floyd_g.o.a.t

    floyd_g.o.a.t Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    80% Blame is on him

    10% on Roach and Koncz

    10% On Pacquiao
     
  9. cesare-borgia

    cesare-borgia Übermensch in fieri Full Member

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    Its true, combined with the ammount of *******s decreasing this is only a preview of what esb looks like if floyd beats manny on may 5th, ***** utopia.
     
  10. JohnAnthony

    JohnAnthony Boxing Junkie banned

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    But HOW???

    If you blame Manny for the fight falling through the 1st time that's fine.
    But for the last 2 years Floyd has not been available Until now. So how is that ducking.

    The only time that they were both available floyd wouldn't even negotiate with Manny.

    SO PLEASE, CAN ONE ***** PLEASE ANSWER LOGICALLY, HOW MANNY HAS DUCKED A FIGHTER THAT HASNT EVEN BEEN AVAILABLE FOR 2 YEARS!!!!
     
  11. mrjotatp4p

    mrjotatp4p THE ONE Full Member

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    Testing shouldn't be a reason for the fight not to happen though and was a reasonable demand especially when Floyd gave him a reasonable cut off. These guys are professional fighters. I honestly think that Mayweather and Manny always wanted the fight.. Its Arum and all the bad blood between them on the business side that has held up the fight.
     
  12. mrjotatp4p

    mrjotatp4p THE ONE Full Member

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    You do have to realize that when Team Pacquiao said they agreed to full testing before they signed to fight Margarito, it turned out to be a flat out lie. That is a fact. Floyd was available but Team Pacquiao wasn't willing to do what he wanted all that time and Arum even proved that.
     
  13. janeschicken

    janeschicken hard work! deadicayshin! Full Member

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    Floyd, by the very insistence of OSDT and the fact he went on "Vacation" is every bit as much to blame for the fight not happening. I said all along Arum didn't want it either. Why would you, when you can keep it in-house and hold all the profits for yourself without having to share with GBP? Anyone who thinks Floyd doesn't have a part in this fight not taking place is either trolling or doesn't understand objective thinking.
     
  14. cesare-borgia

    cesare-borgia Übermensch in fieri Full Member

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    I dont really have a problem with this argument pre clottey, but after that it became a whole mess, I blame arum a lot for the period after that, but some people act like floyd was extremely willing to make it happen like he is now, which really wasnt the case.
     
  15. JohnAnthony

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    incorrect. Floyd has openly stated that he hasn't been available to negotiate.

    Either he's been tied up to fight someone or on vacation.

    PLEASE, CAN ONE ***** PLEASE ANSWER LOGICALLY, HOW MANNY HAS DUCKED A FIGHTER THAT HASNT EVEN BEEN AVAILABLE FOR 2 YEARS!