How come fighters don't shame & chase down champions for a title shot enough?

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  1. tommyg6

    tommyg6 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Similar to what Clubber Lang did to Rocky in Rocky 3...

    like where's the ambition with fighters these days? it's like some fighters don't want to be a champion or want a title shot.

    For me, I respect fighters who want to be the best and will chase down fighters to prove it.
    tbh, I actually enjoy that stuff. To me, it shows that some fighters truly believe they are the best (which I admire) and want to go out & prove it; it also shows they're hungry and want the belt badly: that winning means something and is the only thing that matters, not just fighting for the money like PBC fighters.

    well?
     
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  2. LD Boxer-Puncher

    LD Boxer-Puncher Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Different reasons at different stages. Losing your 0 if you're a real hot prospect can absolutely kill the momentum of your career, and so if they're going to get in with a proper champion, they'll do it when their promoter tells them the money is going to be in the fight, or when they are likely to win
     
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  3. Tarking Rubbish

    Tarking Rubbish Member Full Member

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    Easy to say when you're not the one getting punched in the head.

    Without money in boxing it wouldn't attract good athletes. They would go to soccer, basketball, nfl etc. It's a necessary evil.
     
  4. Taylor2010

    Taylor2010 Arranging chromosome injections for injured boxers Full Member

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    We need more of this

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  5. Gil Gonzalez

    Gil Gonzalez Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Tyson used to do that kind of thing.
     
  6. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If you mean literally showing up at public events to taunt and challenge the opponent, that costs money. Who’s going to pay for the flight, the hotel and such?

    And not just anyone can get ‘inside the ropes’ at say, a weigh-in or press conference. You have to have a credential to get thru the door (or past a certain point if it’s public). And the commission probably isn’t going to let someone who is not part of a fight (i.e. another fighter) come up on stage and start bumping and screaming and such because if someone throws a punch or whatnot it could lead to a cut or hand injury that cancels the fight that the outsider is crashing.
     
  7. gmurphy

    gmurphy Land of the corrupt, home of the robbery! banned Full Member

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    Multiple belts ruined this, when there was only one champion you either had to beat him or you were really no one.

    Now with more belts red hot prospects can get to a title with minimum risk and make tons of money. So that's what they do,
     
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  8. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This happens literally every day. People just use social media now ... wider reach, no cost.
     
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  9. JeremyCorbyn

    JeremyCorbyn Active Member Full Member

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    He's such a child isn't he... :lol:

    Shame he wasn't a better boxer because he would have really livened things up over his career.
     
  10. Willie Maeket

    Willie Maeket "40 Acres and Mule" -General William T. Sherman Full Member

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    Erislandy Lara did that exact thing to Canelo to get his chance and it worked.

    Mosley stepped to Mayweather in the ring after a fight and got his shot.

    Those are some recent examples. Not so secret security , James Bond , clandestine operation as you made it out to be.
     
  11. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You think the Mosley-Mayweather fight happened because of that? You think it wasn’t staged?
     
  12. GlaukosTheHammer

    GlaukosTheHammer Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I'd say Wladimir Klitschko's long reign coupled with his refusal to fight any voluntary fights and his unwillingness to be promoted in America as the obvious Drago that he was killed all classic forms of promotion in the HW division for a while.

    Embarrassing fighters publically and in the press goes back as far as Humphreys - Mendoza in the late 1780s as least and was practiced all the up until Wlad's reign, and returned toward the end of his reign with Briggs, Wilder, and Fury.

    I'd rate Jack Johnson's absolute hounding Tommy Burns as the greatest call out to fight campaign ever ran in boxing. Ali was great at it, Mike was terrifying, but JJ brought the whole package. He was cheeky and terrifying.
     
  13. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    Because a)ducking is so easy these days that a champ can avoid anybody forever and b)the purse system is closer to winner take all than a 50/50 business arrangement and it's not financially worth losing to either party to take a risk. If 50/50 splits were mandatory you'd hardly ever hear of ducking. People would always pick the biggest name with the biggest paydays to fight. Everyone would fight only their peers instead of mismatches. Of course, if 50/50 splits were law in the US, no top fighters would ever fight in the US when they could go to Canada or the UK and get a 90/10 split; so practically speaking that's just not feasible.