how come Hayemaker got of the ground quicker than punch promotions?

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  1. icemax

    icemax Indian Red Full Member

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    Apart from the first show producing the scariest one punch KO that I have ever seen
     
  2. fidds

    fidds Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I wonder if there will be a macoroni promotions :lol:
     
  3. robpalmer135

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    Hattons promotional company will never do anything. Hatton has to many other intrests outside of boxing, to comit to getting his promotion going. Hatton is like all the other boxers who say there gonna be promoters, and they do not get anywhere. the reason for this is simple. Quite simply, Haye and Booth are prepard to put the work in and look to the future beyond Hayes career, there promotional company, when negotiating deals, rather than just thinking about the cash here and now. Hatton and the others have not done the same.

    Hayemaker has gone places for several reasons. Haye and Booth have something the Hattons don't, business savvy. Within 6 months of being a company, they already have 13 fighters signed up inlcuding 1 british champion, a 10 fight TV Deal, and are in a partnership with the worlds most succesful promotional outfit, Goldenboy. Hattons company have had 1 show in 3 years (the ones featuring him have had hobson and maloney promoting)

    Now although i feel Booth and Haye are good businessmen, don't think for one seconed Goldenboy partnerd with Haye for that reason. They signed with Hayemaker sign Haye. Also Setanta signed up with Hayemaker not so they could have the 6 british title shows, but so they could shows David Hayes fights.

    Haye and Booth were smart enough to exploit his position as Britain and the Heavyweight divisions "next big thing" to get a TV deal and a partnership with Goldenboy. Haye could of made more money going with Sky and being on PPV, but he went with Setanta as they were prepared invest in Hayemaker and not just David Haye. Haye could also have gone and fought in the states straight away and made more money, but by staying in England he is getting Hayemaker fighters exposure on TV.

    Do you think TV are gonna give a **** about Hattons promotional company if Hattons retired and they have no name figthers. By the time Haye has retired he could have 20+ fighters, a couple of which will be top prospects like Grives and McGuire, 3-4 could British/Commonwealth Champions like Ryan Rhodes, maybe a European or even a World Champ, so even without Haye they will want to give them a contract. Promoters make 90% of there income from TV, not ticket sales.

    Also Haye is not as involved at the moment as he is still an active fighter. Booth and Dave Coldwell will be doing most of the work until Haye retires in a few years.

    Also we should all be getting behind Hayemaker, they say there ethos is to put on competative fights, no mis matches and bring prospects on quickly, something Haye did himself, and they showed in there first card which i enjoyed and was a sellout.
     
  4. robpalmer135

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    How can warren slag people of for finding opponents, he never name oppoents for Khan until 2 weeks before the fight.
     
  5. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    I would imagine promoting is a lot easier if you get your house in order and line up fighters more than a week in advance - rather than having to phone up Nobby Nobbs to provide some chump to run away for four rounds against guys like Steven Bell or Vinny Mitchell

    Punch Promotions revolves solely around the Hatton's - Ricky and Matthew. Basically a way of keeping money in a company rather than paying income tax at 40% and NI at 11%. They will pay themselves the minimum wage probably and keep the ladies on the books to save £££

    Basically the same way a developer can (could anyway) build 50 office blocks and not give two shits about the amount of money that is being borrowed
     
  6. rooq

    rooq Rooq's Boxing Promoter Full Member

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    hayemaker have signed a dozen or so boxers including a british champion and staged 1 show, with another scheduled for Nov 15th. They have also made a multi-fight deal with setanta.

    punch promotions have done...erm...?
     
  7. Chinny

    Chinny Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Great post. Absolutely spot on
     
  8. robpalmer135

    robpalmer135 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    cheers chinny.
     
  9. robster

    robster Active Member Full Member

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    Top post, mate.

    One other thing, they've found themselves a top MC, a new face and very professional. You don't really notice a good ring announcer. It's only when they are poor that it stands out.

    Another nice piece of attention to detail from Haye, Booth and Coldwell.
     
  10. robpalmer135

    robpalmer135 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    yeh i remember thinking he sounded quite good. just needs a catch phrase really.

    another point to make that hatton and others have not been prepared to put enough cash into to get things of the ground. i can imagine haye and booths bank balance is in a bad state right now, but thats the risk you gotta take to run a succesful business. i spent a year just going from 1 credit card to another until i sold mine.

    why do you think dlh keeps fighting................so he bankroll GBP.
     
  11. Max Molyneux

    Max Molyneux Liverpool Liver Tickler Full Member

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    DLH doesn't need to keep fighting to bankroll GB, he has HBO backing and Is one of the richest fighters ever.
     
  12. robpalmer135

    robpalmer135 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    still doesnt mean he has enough to put on 40 shows a year.
     
  13. FLINT ISLAND

    FLINT ISLAND PENYRHEOL Full Member

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    He dosnet need too.

    But he dont wont to jepoardise his bulk of savings he made through his boxing career - thats his own personal fortune to make him secure for the rest of his life.

    So he still fights for extra money to pump into GBP.

    Everytime he fights he generates a payday of 8 figures.

    Against Mayweather he got like $20 - $30 million

    thats big money

    its worth De La Hoya fighting once a year just for that annual payday to pump into his ever growing successful business.
     
  14. FLINT ISLAND

    FLINT ISLAND PENYRHEOL Full Member

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    If I had a personal fortune of anywhere between $150 million - $250 million

    But could still earn $30 million a year for just one big job - I would do it

    Oscar wont be able to make these fights happen the older he gets

    So he got to make as much as he can out of fighting now - before he really is too old to step in the ring anymore
     
  15. robpalmer135

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    Goldenboy is a massive company. there not jsut dealing with a few million here and there. there shelling out 8 figure sums to put on fights.