How come Marquez didn't

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  1. prelude

    prelude Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Attack more and pressed more forward in this fight. I mean he's been wanting this fight for years and when given the chance all he does is back peddle and counter. He did a great job of countering PAC though, he got the better of the exchange. But the point here is when you want a fight this bad you go in there to win the fight without leaving it to the judge to decide.
     
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  2. Stovepipe

    Stovepipe Boxing Addict Full Member

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    and they asked Nacho if he knew his guy was behind would he have told his fighter to press and he ducked the question entirely.
     
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  3. aramini

    aramini Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Look at all three fights: if Pac doesn't come forward, JMM just looks at him. When pac comes forward, JMM steps back and lands sharp combinations. The more Pac presses him, the better JMM does. He can't fight manny coming forward without getting hurt; however, this fight was the best because he didn't even try to step forward. Beautiful flawless performance, but these guys will always have the same fight over and over and over and at the end I always ask the same question, why can't Juan throw jabs in the spaces when Manny is just staying back? It was the same story in the last rounds in the last two fights, in my opinion.
     
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  4. diavolievo

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    Marquez knows that he'll get knocked out if he did.
     
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  5. boxinger

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    because thats his style, hes a counter puncher

    he basically just waits for the opponent to make the move first, and does not attack
     
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  6. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Because he didn't want to get countered
     
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  7. RingKing

    RingKing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What a ****. Did you even watch the fight last night. On more than one occasion, JMM initiated the exchanges, was able to get off first, and counter effectively whenever PacMan attempted to retaliate. JMM was the clear winner. Watch the fight before you comment on it.
     
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  8. Cableaddict

    Cableaddict Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    ^ Exactly.

    JMM initiated a lot more exchanges than Pac did.

    Sure, he mostly did his counterpunching thing, but then that's what he's good at. I was amazed at just how much he DID come forward. - And he landed a hard blow almost every time.
     
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  9. prelude

    prelude Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Still though, if he's been asking for this fight for years he shouldn't leave it to the judge. He's a great counter puncher but he's also a great fighter himself. He should have been more aggressive to get the judges attention. He probably lost the fight because he backed up too much which looked like he didn't want the fight that bad.
     
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  10. jmmpbf

    jmmpbf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Its because if you watch the first 2 fights, if he didnt get KD, he woulda clearly beat Pac.

    So he boxed, and shoulda been granted a win....again.
     
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  11. prelude

    prelude Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    When you want a fight that bad you shouldn't leave it to SHOULDA. You need to convince that you really want to win this thing...win or lose. Marquez said he was willing to die in the ring but it didn't seems like that last night.
     
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  12. meloy

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    x2
     
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  13. Brauer

    Brauer Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It was a convincing win. Only *******s don't think so.
     
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  14. prelude

    prelude Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Why would it matters what we think, it's what the judges think :lol:.
     
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  15. RoosterC

    RoosterC Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The majority of members gave every close round to JMM just because he was the underdog. That is simply not how you score a fight. Pac clearly won.

    JMM dod not come forward more or throw more simply because he was scared to get knocked out.
     
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