How come no one discredits Evan Fields victories over Tyson?

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  1. Jesus

    Jesus Member Full Member

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    I was a Holyfield fan and always had my suspicions on how he gained so much mass from his cruiserweight days. When he fought Tyson, it just looked impossible to gain that much mass naturally.

    I have been bodybuilding for years and I have tons of friends who juice, its almost laughable to not realize Holyfield was on juice. Its the same audience of people who think Brock Lesnar is natural because he eats 48 grams of chicken a day.

    On top of it, the infamous allegations from the pharm company that an Evan Fields with the same number, birthday, and an address similar to Holyfields was on steroids for years. Not to mention in his OWN BOOK he has an excerpt stating "some people urged me to use steroids, especially when moving up to the heavyweight division."

    Yet, even though so many of us know this, we still discredit Mike and say he couldnt 'overcome' Evander. IMO, Mike may have been on some stuff too but he was a bulky guy since he was a teenager.

    Here's Holyfield when he was natural

    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-mlRIJiSXOK8/UzGQFdFQTzI/AAAAAAAAEHc/ReX6CrufUgU/s1600/evander+light.jpg

    Then when he miraculously put on enourmous mass

    http://msbush.wikispaces.com/file/v...32907007/evander_holyfield_caesars_palace.jpg
     
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  2. Overhill

    Overhill Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You're obviously not a bodybuilder. Stop lying you pencil-necked mickey mouse.
     
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  3. MARAVILLLLLLLLA

    MARAVILLLLLLLLA New Member Full Member

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    genetic + roids

    even full juice heads can't bench press 400lb if theyve started weight lifting in 12 months and he was putting up 12reps
     
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  4. MARAVILLLLLLLLA

    MARAVILLLLLLLLA New Member Full Member

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    and wtf the bible doesnt say anything you lifting weights
     
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  5. Jesus

    Jesus Member Full Member

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    Not competitively but Ive lifted for over 15 years and been more than just a gym rat.
     
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  6. Overhill

    Overhill Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Fck off liar. 48 grams of chicken is not even a snack you dumb piece of ****.
     
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  7. MARAVILLLLLLLLA

    MARAVILLLLLLLLA New Member Full Member

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    hes talking about brock when he was about 8 or 9
     
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  8. Overhill

    Overhill Boxing Addict Full Member

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    48 g of chicken contains 12 grams of protein. Kids need more than that with every meal.
     
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  9. MARAVILLLLLLLLA

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    :rofl
     
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  10. MoJoGoodie

    MoJoGoodie Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :rofl:rofl:rofl
     
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  11. dannyc1990

    dannyc1990 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    100% juiced. No doubt about it. I personally think alot of the old timers did, back in them days they weren't understood like they are today.
     
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  12. southpaw1974

    southpaw1974 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Floyd eats 100 grams of chicken per day.
     
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  13. VG_Addict

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    You're naive if you think most of the top fighters AREN'T juicing.
     
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  14. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    Of course Holyfield has a massive * by his name, because the whole world knows he was a steroid user.

    But when your name is big enough in boxing, you can get away with it because lots of fans wipe it under the carpet.

    it's like the question "How would prime RJJ have done in todays MW division?"
    My answer; He would have beaten all of them, but all fights would be changed to a NC after because he won't get trough the post fight test with the **** he took then nowadays.

    Holy's wins over Tyson were steroid fueled, but we also shouldn't forget Tyson wasn't always clean either, although likely mor partydrugs as actual steroids.
     
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  15. madballster

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    I find it funny when people argue this or that physique of a boxer is not attainable without juice. But we have thousands of Olympic athletes (with Olympic testing) who look just like boxers: decathlon athletes, 100m sprinters, male gymnastics.

    If we give the Olympic athletes (or at least 80% of them) a free pass on PED use, then how do they achieve the same ripped physique as pro boxers. Yet all pro boxers have to be on juice? Makes no sense, unless you assume 100% of all ripped Olympic athletes are on anabolic steroids. Which is probably non-sense.
     
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