How come short fighters no longer use the bob and weave?

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  1. Ripper11

    Ripper11 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    idk :think Canelo has more in the gas tank at the end of the fight, but he seems to get tired more often during the fight
     
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  2. ReE13

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    It's all about the shoulder roll these days baby
     
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  3. Sweet-D-Willy

    Sweet-D-Willy Tha Realest Full Member

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    Canelo does seem to fade in the later rounds. might be his undoing against Trout.
     
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  4. SugarShane_24

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    Lack of people who can actually teach it.
     
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  5. Ripper11

    Ripper11 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :yep it will be. I'll (or should I say, bball), will be mentioning that quite often in his breakdown thread of this fight
     
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  6. Drew101

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    Tyson tended to use the peek-a-boo style of defense more than the Frazier/Armstrong/Qawi style of bob and weave. That said, your point stands regarding FMJ's method of defending.
     
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  7. Sweet-D-Willy

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    :thumbsup
     
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  8. BobNWeave

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    But what if Floyd move up to SMW and fight someone like Carl Froch? Do you think that a bob and weave tactic will be a nightmare for Froch?
    Manny is short, so won't the bob and weave be perfect for him?
    What about Broner? He's another midget that could really dominate with that style?
     
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  9. BobNWeave

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    Max Kellerman said that Sergio Martinez is one of the most athletic middleweights of all times. When I called his radio show and asked him if Sergio can use the bob and weave tactic against guys like Chad Dawson, Max said it will be impossible for Sergio.
    Is that his opinion or is that fact?
     
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  10. BobNWeave

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    How high do you rate Canelo's current head movement? Do you think it's at least a 7 out of 10? How high do you rate Prime Tyson's?
     
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  11. BobNWeave

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    Did you see the fight where Tyson almost touched the ground with his lips? He bob and weaved so low for that fight. Berbick look stupid in there trying to find him. Do you think someone like Pacquaio or Floyd can do that against say a SMW? Say against a tall SMW like Lucian Bute?
     
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  12. BobNWeave

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    Do you think it could be taught? Mike Tyson was a 5'10 Heavyweight who knocked out guys 6'3-6'6. I think shorter fighters like Floyd and Pac and Broner will have massive success going up in weight if they implemented the same style. It's a nightmare for tall guys. Do you think that it could be taught though? Or you are born with it?
     
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  13. BobNWeave

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    How effective is the shoulder roll against a bob and weave fighter though? Remember the fight Tyson had against Holmes and Holmes tried to shoulder roll and end up getting knocked out? Do you think that is a indication of Holmes just being too old and past prime? Or that Holmes isn't a naturally shoulder roll fighter? Or that the weave is actually superior to the shoulder roll?
     
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  14. BobNWeave

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    But how come the style can't be implemented among the lower weights where it could truly be effective? With so many short fighters trying to move up in weight? For instance do you think Jaun Manuel Marquez will be more successful using the bob and weave against Floyd
     
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  15. SugarShane_24

    SugarShane_24 ESB good-looking member Full Member

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    It's a fighting style, not like punching power or speed that is inborn.

    It can be taught, but does the boxer have the reflexes and speed to do it.
     
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