How come Wilder and Fury fought each other but Joshua has fought neither

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  1. Mitch87

    Mitch87 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Whyte
    Parker - Better and more proven than Wilder.
    Chisora - has a better wins than Ortiz.
    Rivas - on par with Ortiz Wilder best win
    Helenius - according to everyone would be one of Wilders best wins.

    Povetkin
    Whyte - better than Wilder.
    Byrd - better than Wilder.
    Chagaev - even he has better wins than Ortiz.
    Takam - better than anyone Ortiz has ever beaten.
    Perez - on par with Ortiz best win in Jennings(only lost on the scorecards due to a controversial point deduction in the last round and would have been scored a draw).

    Duhaupas- One of Wilder best wins who busted up Wilder ls face and took him deep before a premature stoppage doesn't get into Povetkins best wins. Povetkin battered Duhaupas before knocking out.
     
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  2. G Man

    G Man Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Scott, Jennings and Thompson would've made short work of that bum list. And they were only the victims of Wilder's victim!
     
  3. Mitch87

    Mitch87 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Scott and Thompson are poor - Scott doesn't get into Chisora top 3 wins (Chisora stopped him before Wilder)nevermind would be near Povetkin or Whytes top 5.
     
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    G Man Boxing Addict Full Member

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    *yawn* nope, not in the eyes of a hater.
     
  5. Mitch87

    Mitch87 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You said someone who Chisora beat easily and took his "0" and Thompson whose best wins is Price (Chisora has beaten and beaten better) would beat the likes of Whyte and Povetkin lol I'm the hater? Lol
     
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    Vegan Beast Grandpappy Ortiz Full Member

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    Joshua agreed to fight Usyk and there was little B.S. and the fight happened immediately. Usyk is arguably better than Wilder or Fury.

    I don't understand why everyone thinks AJ was ever obligated to fight Wilder.

    Why do people think Wilder is somehow a top dog in this division?

    Wilder has not proven he is above the likes of Whyte, Ruiz, Parker, Joyce level. He has similar resumes to them. As far as I'm concerned, AJ has beaten Wilder level opponents.

    Wilder was almost beaten by 39 year old Ortiz, and needed help from the ref to survive that.

    Side notes -

    1. There's strong reason to believe Wilder ducked AJ, as he literally admitted he could have fought AJ for 3 belts, but took the Fury fight for 0 belts instead, and we all know why that is.

    2. AJ vs Fury was being made, Wilder won a court case, the fight couldn't have happened. I believe it will happen in the future though.

    Could AJ's side be partially responsible? Maybe, but who knows?
     
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  7. G Man

    G Man Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yup! Certified hater. Scott, Jennings and Thompson would smash them. And they're only the victims! You have much to learn my friend.
     
  8. Mitch87

    Mitch87 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What are you basing this on?

    Scott got stopped by Chisora before Wilder beat him.

    Thompson lost to both Pulev and Takam before Ortiz beat a past it Thompson.

    Jennings should of draw with Perez who just before got a gift draw decision against Takam in a fight that was clear Takam won.
     
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  9. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    AJ is bad for boxing. If Usyk loses, boxing loses

    The british hypejob deserves to get KO'd for ducking prime fighters
     
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    fencik45 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    This describes Fury and Wilder just as accurately.
     
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  11. cleglue1

    cleglue1 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Wilder killed opportunities we had at getting some great heavyweight fights. Starting with Wilder vs Wlad .
     
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  12. Boxing Gloves

    Boxing Gloves Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think AJ needs his own sub forum, every other thread is about him.

    Wilder ducked AJ, he has pretty much admitted it.

    Fury has been tied up with Wilder and retirement/mental health issues for the most of AJ's career.

    For the record Fury is a big favourite to beat AJ and Wilder is a 50/50 fight for me. But AJ hasn't ducked anyone his whole career.
     
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    hobby rider Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Wilder being ringside for the Joshua v WK fight is the worst thing that could have happened as far as making the fight goes.
     
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    Puroresu_Fan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Fury Fight was signed last year and didn't happen. Was nothing to do with AJ.
     
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  15. kiwi_boxer

    kiwi_boxer nighty night, ellerbe ☠ ☠ ☠ banned Full Member

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    How many alts are there between boxing2019 and Markus?

    I’m yet to find out which one Gman is associated to, but they’re almost joined at the hip when it comes to AJ threads.

    Funny how short peoples memories are…

    Wilder turned down MULTIPLE offers to fight Joshua. He’s even been on record to defend his ‘reasons’ why. Wilder ducked Joshua.

    Fury was meant to fight Joshua, contract one place and all. Who bottled it? Not Joshua, Fury did. Fury ducked Joshua.

    Joshua is easily beatable for anyone with a solid punch and chin… however, neither Bambi or Fury wanted to make the fights happen. That’s not muscle dummies fault.
     
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