How convenient, UKAD timed their Fury ruling just right to exclude the Klitschko fight!

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  1. elbonzoseco

    elbonzoseco Member Full Member

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    But we have to start somewhere and hope it has a positive effect on america and everywhere else (excluding Las Vegas, I think that ship has sailed :))
     
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  2. paulonorcatto

    paulonorcatto New Member Full Member

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    ukad cant do anything about the klitschko fight as it happened in germany and is not under their jurisiction.
     
  3. elbonzoseco

    elbonzoseco Member Full Member

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    Actually it was, he shouldn't have had a licence in november 2015.
     
  4. Robney

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    Be real here, Fury got off easily.
    If in any other sport you test positive on a trace amount and then later on refuse a test after just testing positive for coke as well, your ass is toast!
    That UKAD (and VADA too in this case) catch a higher amount as their US counterparts doesn't make any difference whatsoever.
    That corruption let other doping offenders go free, and even seem to reward them doesn't make a difference either.
    That other fights in which they know the winner was doped up weren't overturned, and that a couple of British boxers were victim of that doesn't either.

    No matter how the stuff got in his body, he fought Hammer and tested positive... eventually receiving a ban for it.
    How can that fight NOT be overturned? That's a form of corruption as well.

    It seems like people like to point fingers to others, for getting away with things and then wanting everyone get away with it because somehow that's justice.
    How about the justice for Hammer? And the whole aftermath with what we know now, where's the justice for Wladschko? Ruling the win over him as legit, doesn't make the issue any less f__cked up for him either! He lost a year worth of income due to Fury's and UKAD antics, which in his case was quite substantial.
    Fury isn't the victim here, he's the culprit!
     
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  5. gmurphy

    gmurphy Land of the corrupt, home of the robbery! banned Full Member

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    The nandrolone thing was a none issue trace amounts can be explained naturally it was a non story then when fury was getting bashed in the press about his homophobic comments it suddenly became an issue again. It was all very weird.

    As regards the cocaine i remember some tennis player got done for coke and said he must have got it in his system kissing some girl at a nightclub. He got away with it.

    And vada is becoming silly whats the point of having vara when the wbc will just leave you off if your Mexican and Blane tainted meat. Or if you are useless like stiverne and you dope and they will just say it was an accident and nothing happened .

    I don't believe there is any fairness. in drug testing at all, in fact it has probably made things more uneven. So i don't understand why we should want them to come down like a ton of bricks on some crazy guy who doesnt even fight while leaving other fighters who are active and doped to there eyeballs like nery bash peoples brains in a pass.
     
  6. GALVATRON

    GALVATRON Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    This isn't true he didn't comply a few times and even told them to F off before the rematch when they showed up at his home when they wanted to test him.
     
  7. Gymbot

    Gymbot Active Member Full Member

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    There was no testing for Fury/Klitschko

    Boente said he wished they had contracted with VADA to handle testing when Fury scored a huge upset to take Klitschko's heavyweight title belts by unanimous decision last Nov. 28 at Esprit Arena in Dusseldorf, Germany. One of the biggest upsets in heavyweight history ended Klitschko's 9½-year title reign.

    "If this is true about his positive drug test, it's too bad we did not do VADA testing before the first fight," Boente said. "We are not surprised because this is how Fury acted the whole time and now we probably have another indication why he didn't show up at the press conference in London, where he claimed a car problem. It also shows the ongoing situation with (the United Kingdom Anti-Doping Association) situation under a different light."
    http://www.espn.co.uk/boxing/story/...ils-drug-test-positive-result-benzoylecgonine
     
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  8. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    Fury is back? Thank God. This fraud Joshua, who was given his titles was acting like a champion knowing full well his stiff ass wasn't a real champion or titlist.
     
  9. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    Explained by tainted meat/food/supplements... in this case boar. But, do you actually believe that?
    Like I said, corruption that makes others get away with it, doesn't make it fair for everyone to get away with it.
    That's on the WBC in that case, VADA only did the testing and giving the result.
    We all know it's bullshirt from the WBC to give them all a pass on tainted meat/foodsupplements, but why do you think the same corrution would be ok for the Fury's cases?
    Very true. But now that the WBA is implementing VADA as well, being Mexican/American won't give you an automatic "tainted food/TUE pass" anymore.

    Don't fall into the Carl Lewis trap, believing that if everyone from your country gets away with cheating, that somehow makes it all fair again.
     
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  10. nurological

    nurological Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I thought UKAD don' have powers abroad? Hence why Thompson was still competing even after UKAD banned him
     
  11. elbonzoseco

    elbonzoseco Member Full Member

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    That doesn't really matter, he failed the test after the hammer fight (the fight before Klitschko), so he should have been banned by then. Not to start the retroactive ban after the hammer fight, but wait for a date that just excludes the Klitschko fight is something I'd only expect to happen in north korea.... or las vegas
     
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